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lunchbox wrote:if the person was given permission or ordered to open carry by the owner what is the difference he is then acting on the behalf of the owner or whatever the case may be but as for me we dont get that option


on a side note im told most of the stores you see open carry in the guns are unloaded and are used as a selling tool

Congratulations. You're well on your way to being a gun store expert. When you get about twenty years of experience under your belt, you'll be providing invaluable service to the shooting community, such making fun of new employees for the gun they've chosen to carry.

WildBill wrote:Maybe an LEO could assume that anyone OCing has control over the premises? Or maybe their primary responsibility is security?

If their primary responsibility is security, they'd be in violation for not having a commissioned security license. Or if they did have the license, they'd be in violation for not wearing a distinctive uniform with all the right patches.

The idea of employees behind the counter being in control of the premises is iffy, at best.

Instead of looking for non-existent exceptions in the Code, or trying to apply exceptions that either obviously don't apply or would be tenuous, everyone needs to accept the basic truth of this issue: open carry is currently not legal in a gun store, in a gun show, or at a barbecue with the host's blessing. People don't get prosecuted just because those things fall into the realm of "that's the way we've always done things", and "everyone knows that's not what the law means".

Although I suspect that at the "wrong" sort of barbecue, police would absolutely charge guests with gun violations.

rm9792 wrote:All the private property rights being bandied about here lately yet no one feels the store owner can let his employees carry openly? If I have guests over they are allowed to wear openly all they want right? Thsi is why I say there is a difference between commercial private property and residential private property.

No.

It's not about what we feel, it's about what the Penal Code says. Neither you as a host, nor the store owner, is mentioned in the PC as an exception to 46.02 or 46.035. Feel free to tell your guests that they can OC on your property; they would still be breaking the law.

I imagine that close to 100% of us feel that you as a host, or any other property owner, should be able to allow open carry or concealed carry as an exception to the law. Sadly, the law doesn't read that way. Don't blame us for how we "feel", when we quote the plain text of the law.

TDDude wrote:If you have permission from the owner of the business, you can carry any legal firearm however the owner sees fit.

Please cite the section of Texas code that exempts you from PC 46.02 or 46.035 if you have "permission from the owner".