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by KBCraig
Sun Nov 09, 2008 2:16 am
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Why Hand Over CHL If You're Not Carrying?
Replies: 42
Views: 5130

Re: Why Hand Over CHL If You're Not Carrying?

The obvious solution is to strip CHL information from the DL returns, to avoid needlessly alarming officers about people who aren't carrying. :coolgleamA:

And eliminating any duty to notify is just "common sense". Don't we all support "common sense" laws? ;-)
by KBCraig
Tue Nov 04, 2008 3:46 am
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Why Hand Over CHL If You're Not Carrying?
Replies: 42
Views: 5130

Re: Why Hand Over CHL If You're Not Carrying?

flintknapper wrote:
KBCraig wrote:A non-CHL doesn't even have to reply one way or the other.
You sure?
No law requires a driver to speak during a traffic stop. You've provided your identification; that's all that is required.
by KBCraig
Mon Nov 03, 2008 7:27 pm
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Why Hand Over CHL If You're Not Carrying?
Replies: 42
Views: 5130

Re: Why Hand Over CHL If You're Not Carrying?

flintknapper wrote:Again, you are NOT required by law to display your CHL license when you are NOT carrying. If an officer asks if you are armed...you must give a reply, same as with any traffic stop.

Currently, under the "Motorist Protection Act" you are NOT required to volunteer that you are armed either. Of course, this is separate from CHL laws, but I wanted to point that out as well.
A non-CHL doesn't even have to reply one way or the other.
by KBCraig
Sun Nov 02, 2008 2:12 am
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Why Hand Over CHL If You're Not Carrying?
Replies: 42
Views: 5130

Re: Why Hand Over CHL If You're Not Carrying?

WildBill wrote:Abraham - As Keith stated there have been hundreds of posts on this subject. Unfortunately we haven't heard from very many LEOs to hear their preferences.
What our member LEOs think about this really isn't important. Don't get me wrong, I value their opinions and expertise, but they're all CHL-friendly.

The opinion that matters is the worst possible response you'd get from an uninformed anti-CHL cop having a bad day. No cop's irritation at being shown a CHL when he doesn't want to see it, can possibly measure up to the irritation of that guy when he runs your license and sees that you have a CHL and didn't inform him. And believe it or not, there are cops out there who still believe you're required to show your CHL every time, armed or not.

It doesn't matter what the consensus is, nor what the average LEO would prefer. What matters is what that cop at that time thinks. That small sample constitutes 100% of the opinion poll that counts.

So... given the choice between the mild irritation of a cop who doesn't care about your CHL, especially if you're not armed, or the Type A stress of one who doesn't think any citizen should be able to carry, turning a routine traffic stop into a felony stop, gun drawn, hands out the window, etc., etc., even though you're unarmed...

Guess which I'd choose?

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