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Lucky45 wrote:

KBCraig wrote:Actually, it's questionable if 30.06 applies to non-TCLEOSE federal LEOs who are covered by LEOSA (FBI, U.S. Marshals, Bureau of Prisons, Border Patrol, DoD police, etc., etc., etc.), because 30.06 refers specifically to CHLs.
Kevin

Hey KBCraig, I wish you would have quoted part of the US Law that I posted when you made your objection. Partially quoting me kinda takes my statement out of context.

In the interest of readability, there's no need to keep quoting large sections. The law is right there, just a couple of posts away.

But let's get down to business anyway.
What part of the US Law is questionable??? It says..

I know what it says. I've been following LEOSA closely since it was just a bill.

Quoting it again doesn't explain what you think is not questionable, nor why. Do you think 30.06 does or doesn't apply to non-TCLEOSE, non-Special Investigator, non-CHL federal LEOs?

I said why applicability is questionable: 30.06 only applies to CHLs. As I responded to TXI, 30.06 only applies to CHL, but a 30.06 notice gives everyone notice that concealed handguns aren't welcome. There are thousands of non-Peace Officer, non-Special Investigator, but still LEOSA-qualified federal LEOs, carrying off-duty in Texas.

txinvestigator wrote:

KBCraig wrote:Actually, it's questionable if 30.06 applies to non-TCLEOSE federal LEOs who are covered by LEOSA (FBI, U.S. Marshals, Bureau of Prisons, Border Patrol, DoD police, etc., etc., etc.), because 30.06 refers specifically to CHLs.
Kevin

Humm, I don't see how it is questionable;

It's questionable because Texas allows wide latitude for property owners to ban certain actions, including carrying of concealed handguns. While 30.06 only applies to CHLs, a valid 30.06 notice could be argued to be effective notice under 30.05 (even a ghostbusters sign is effective under 30.05, for non-CHLs).

Secondly, 30.05 specifically INCLUDES off duty in the non-applicibility. it matters not if Peace Officers or Special Investigators are on or off duty; 30.05 does not apply to them, and neither does 30.06.

I'm neither a Peace Officer nor a Special Investigator as defined in Texas law. Nor are the vast majority of federal LEOs in Texas. You realize there are about 3,000 working just for the Federal Bureau of Prisons in Texas, almost all qualified to carry under LEOSA? FBI/Marshals/DEA/ATF are a small minority.

Lucky45 wrote:

Renegade wrote:Also, since FBI Agents are not Peace Officers, it appears they, along with other Special Investigators are banned from carrying there. Well, at least us CHLs are in good company.....

In a nutshell, if they are ON-DUTY then they can carry. If they are OFF-DUTY, then they have to obey PC30.06 like everyone else.

Actually, it's questionable if 30.06 applies to non-TCLEOSE federal LEOs who are covered by LEOSA (FBI, U.S. Marshals, Bureau of Prisons, Border Patrol, DoD police, etc., etc., etc.), because 30.06 refers specifically to CHLs.

Personally, as a member of that group, I observe 30.06 signs, which isn't a problem since I seldom have reason to go to posted locations (I only know of two in Texarkana; I might have to go to the hospital, but I don't have to patronize Red River credit union!)

Kevin