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frankie_the_yankee wrote:As long as they HAVE TO sell me the gun when I pass the background check, and as long as they HAVE TO issue me a CHL when I meet the requirements, I'm good with it.

Just so you know, a dealer never "has to" sell you a gun, no matter what kind of check you pass. All dealers are strongly encouraged by ATF to use their discretion and refuse to sell any time they suspect something "not right" about the transaction.

Kevin

Jim Dark has some experience being accosted by the law while in possession of a muzzle-loader. Maybe he'll chime in...

wjmphoto wrote:While it is a right, it is not one that is open, nor should it be open, to everyone. Convicted felons should not have the right to carry open or concealed or even own a firearm. Spousal abusers should not be allowed to carry or own a weapon either. People with serious mental illness and those with drug and alcohol addictions should not be allowed to carry.

Wow, that all sounds "reasonable". And you know that lots of "reasonable" people believe you shouldn't be allowed to carry or own a firearm, either, right?

The only way to insure that law abising citizens are the only ones that carry a gun legally is to require background checks, like Texas. Granted it will not stop criminals from carrying because they don't worry about following the law in the first place, but it helps.

Are you seriously saying, simultaneously, that criminals can't be stopped from carrying guns, but that we can ensure anyone carrying a gun is doing so legally by having a background check?

Don't take up debate for a hobby, okay?

txinvestigator wrote:EDIT: Sorry KB, I didn't read your response first.

Looks like we were typing at the same time.

wjmphoto wrote:

txinvestigator wrote:

anygunanywhere wrote: You can open carry in Kalifornia!

You can in Texas too.

Perhaps I mised the sarcasm in this response (forgive me if I did) but....

To the best of my knowledge, you can't open carry in Texas. Failure to conceal if you are a permit holder is a criminal offense. (True, you can open carry on your own property, but that is the only place I am aware of.)

Back to basics: PC chapter 46 makes it illegal to have a handgun on or about your person. No mention of open or concealed, loaded or not.

Then there are statutory exceptions to that prohibition, only one of which (having a CHL) requires the gun to be concealed. The other exceptions (traveling, engaged in a sporting activity, traveling to or from said sporting activity, on property you own or control...) simply exempt you from the entire prohibition, without imposing any requirement that the handgun be concealed.

Kevin