Um..how, he believed the guy was going to turn and shoot himbadkarma56 wrote:Frankie, I agree that the jeweler was well-briefed on buzzwords and "what not to say to po-po" by someone. He sounds like a graduate of Charles Bronson's "Death Wish" school for clever vigilantes.frankie_the_yankee wrote:Back in RI a guy once tried to rob a jewelry store. He pointed a Beretta 9mm at the owner and told him to fill up a bag with (expensive) jewelry from a case he pointed to. The owner moved to do this, but instead drew a 45ACP auto from a holster he had fastened to the underside of the top of the case (in a way that it was out of sight to patrons).nitrogen wrote:Does a man retreating from you put you in fear for your life? is a man running away an imminent threat to you or your family?
Will you be willing to severely injure someone, possibly killing them to stop them for what they stole?
That's what it comes down to, regardless of what the law says; there's a higher law here.
I can see both sides here. In some circumstances, I could see a shoot of a retreating robber being justified, but not in most cases.
The owner was quoted in the newspaper as saying, "I was sure he was going to shoot me, so I drew the gun."
At the sight of the gun, the would be robber turned and fled. The owner followed him out into the street, not to try to catch him, but in his words, "...to see where he went so I could point him out to the police."
As he is chasing the BG down the street the BG turns partly around, probably to see how close his pursuer was. Apparently, his gun hand swung around while he was doing this. The jeweler said, "I was sure he was going to shoot me, so I fired."
He ends up hitting the BG in the leg. (It was a heck of a shot.) The police caught him soon after.
As I am reading this account I'm thinking, this guy must have taken some kind of deadly force class. He said a lot of "magic words". He'd have to be one clever dude to come up with all that stuff himself.
It turned out that the 9mm was not loaded. Of course the jeweler would have no way of knowing that.
The cops didn't bring any charges and he was later no billed by the grand jury.
I'm defending the robber's acts at all, but that jeweler was very fortunate not have been indicted for something.
Wouldn't key points like that matter in a case, he feared for his life, he wanted to make sure he could tell the LEO were the badguy took off with
Sounds like well though out and intelligent responses to a situation, and it answers the Ability, Opportunity, and Jeopardy, I wouldn't have charged him if I was on his grand jury
as "Charles Bronson's "Death Wish" school for clever vigilantes" as its sounds it is the ABSOLUTE best thing because it took the vigilante out of it and turned it around to be he feared the badguy was going to shoot him