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Lambda Force wrote:

Bitter Clinger wrote:So the Democrats still own Obamacare as it implodes,

Nope. Now Trump, Ryan and the rest of them own all the bad parts of Obamacare they refused to repeal when they had the chance. As far as I'm concerned, the financial penalty for opting out is now called the Trump Tax.

Mxrdad wrote:

Bitter Clinger wrote:

philip964 wrote: What Obamacare did do, that I am personally aware of, was that it allowed two friends who were uninsurable to get health insurance for the first time in awhile. One had a seizure during college while she was under her parents insurance. The other developed diabetes while on Cobra after changing careers.

A simple repeal of Obamacare would have left both these friends out in the cold again. There were most likely millions of people like them. Everyone of them would have been a tragic story in the news, if it was simply repealed.

While those are compelling tragic stories, they do not give the government the right to tax everyone, against their free will, to provide for those people. Stop taxing those of us and to paraphrase your words, "millions of people like us", many of us who continue to go to work each and every day regardless of health constraints, and instead make it easier for those folks you know to obtain and pay for their own care. And BTW, if taxes were lowered, voluntary contributions to legal charities, many of which can help people like those in the examples you gave, would rise as well. But to support or encourage Obamacare, which FORCES me to pay for things that I do not believe in or support, and things that actually destroy my ability to earn an income, like the medical devices tax, is an exceedingly one sided viewpoint.

I'm with Bitter on this. When folks like myself are paying $ 1,500 - $ 2,500 per month for health care, while illegal immigrants and others who are able to work but choose not to, get free health care, you can't blame folks for getting upset about it.