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by Keith B
Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:18 pm
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Topic: What makes people think this is acceptable?
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Re: What makes people think this is acceptable?

Purplehood wrote:Doesn't it also suggest to a potential burglar know that you are NOT home if you fail to answer?
Not any more than an unanswered knock on the door or doorbell does.
by Keith B
Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:56 am
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Topic: What makes people think this is acceptable?
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Re: What makes people think this is acceptable?

Here is the Muni Code for Plano. Many cities will have a similar ordenance. Note teh times they can solicit (paragraph (b)and also the requirement to comply to a sign that is posted (paragraph (d).

Sec. 11-145. Solicitation and handbill distribution on private property.

(a) It shall be unlawful for any person to conduct commercial solicitation upon residential property within the city, without first obtaining a written permit as prescribed by this article.

(b) All solicitation on residential property, whether for a commercial or non-commercial purpose shall occur only during the time that is one-half ( 1/2) hour after sunrise and one-half ( 1/2) hour before sunset. This provision does not apply where the solicitor is on the property by express, prior invitation of the owner of the property or a person residing on the premises.

(c) It shall be unlawful for any person, handbill distributors, sponsor, to distribute or cause to be distributed, deposited, placed, thrown, scattered, or cast any handbill upon any residential property except by handing or transmitting such handbill directly to the owner, occupant, or any other person then present in or upon such private premises or by placing or depositing the same in a manner to secure to prevent such handbill from being blown or drifting about such premises, except that mailboxes may not be used when prohibited by federal postal laws or regulations.

(d) It shall be unlawful for any person to distribute or cause to be distributed, deposited, placed, thrown, scattered or cast any handbill upon any residential property if requested by anyone thereon not to do so, or if there is placed on such premises in a conspicuous place upon or near the main entrance to the residence, a weatherproof card, not less than three (3) inches by four (4) inches in size bearing the words "no trespassing," "no peddlers," "no advertisements," "no solicitation," "no handbills," or any similar notice indicating in any manner that the occupants of such premises do not desire to have any such handbills left upon their premises. The letters on such cards shall be not less than two-thirds ( 2/3) of an inch in height.

(e) It shall be unlawful for any person to go upon any residential premises for the purpose of solicitation and ring the doorbell, knock upon the door or create any sound for the purpose of attracting the attention of the occupants of the residence if there is placed on such premises in a conspicuous place upon or near the main entrance to the residence, a weatherproof card, not less than three (3) inches by four (4) inches in size bearing the words "no solicitation", "no peddlers", or "no trespassing". The letters on such cards shall be not less than two-thirds ( 2/3) of an inch in height.
(Ord. No. 2002-7-13, § I, 7-22-02; Ord. No. 2003-6-7, § I, 6-9-03)
by Keith B
Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:17 am
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Topic: What makes people think this is acceptable?
Replies: 29
Views: 5071

Re: What makes people think this is acceptable?

Actually the new Kirby's have a motor drive that helps with the weight. We have one and it is a good unit. However, I know how much mark-up they have (a friend of mine used to be a district manager for them) so I negotiated mine down to a reasonable price. :thumbs2:

To get back on topic, I have a No Solicitations or Handbill's sign beside my door that meets the city requirements for notification. I recently had someone put a door-hanger flier on the door (second time from this company.) I contacted them again (had done it before) and they referred the issue to the sub-contracted company. I received a call about 5 minutes later from the manager over the distribution. I advised him if they didn't cease I would turn them over to the city for them violating the city ordinance, as well as well as seek restitution for my time and trouble. That would not only get them a fine from the city, but probably not allow them a license to distribute any more. He fell all over himself apologizing on the phone and promised several times that it would not happen again. We'll see.

Overall, I have been pretty lucky about them heeding the notice since it has been posted However, I wouldn't mind a fence staining company putting one on my door; maybe I could convince them they needed to stain my fence for free to keep me from turning them over to the city. :mrgreen:

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