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Pete92FS wrote:

Keith B wrote:

Pete92FS wrote: I hate to throw a wrench in the works, but if you were alone in your brother's house (with his permission) didn't that put you "in control of the property" thus making you legal?

Now you are picking nits.

It may then technically allow you to carry (not specified in the statutes) but you better cover it back up before they arrive back home!

IANAL

Just trying to help.

I updated my response above. Quite a bit of additional.

Pete92FS wrote: I hate to throw a wrench in the works, but if you were alone in your brother's house (with his permission) didn't that put you "in control of the property" thus making you legal?

Now you are picking nits.

It may then technically allow you to carry IF you are OFFICIALLY in control of the property. It is not specified in the statutes what actually make you 'in control' but I would say it means you have full rights to make all decisions for that proeprty. If I was a mean prosecutor and wanted to make an example of you for open carrying, then I would try to make the case that you weren't really in control of the property becuase you couldn't make decisons on the sale, repairs and maintenance of the proeprty. Might not stand up in court, but it also might. No matter, even if you are in control, you better cover it back up before they arrive back home!

IANAL

Purplehood wrote:I was wondering when the Lawyers would jump on that!

Troll.

sjfcontrol wrote:This brings up a question I've had for a while. If a location is NOT 30.06 posted, but you're given verbal notice not to carry (either private residence, or business), how long is that notice good for? If I come back a year later, do I still have to disarm? How about next week? An hour from now? Do they need to give verbal notice EVERY time I show up?

It is permanent. Once given verbal notice by the owner or managerment, you are not allowed to carry until you have been given verbal or written approval to carry by the person in control.

chabouk wrote:I'm surprised no one has pointed this out, but since your parents' home is (presumably) not property you own or control, you violated 46.035 when you took your jacket off.

Yes, it's ridiculous, but that is the way the law reads.

Not necessarily. I intentionally unconceal all the time at my parents house and am not under control of it. But then, it is in Missouri and they have open carry in their state and it is not against the city ordinance. LOL

And, WolfeJager didn't say where his parents lived, just that he and his brother are in Houston. However, the assumption of Texas is probably right and yes, you are legally in violation of 46.035 if you intentionally unconceal.

frazzled wrote:Its his house. Why did you carry into his house without telling him?

Do you tell everyone you are carrying when you enter a location? Like the greeter at Wal-Mart, the grocery store clerk, etc? It's their stores, why would you carry into their stores without telling them? I see no difference.

As the OP found out, you have a greater risk of being discovered around family, but I don't think just going into their house is grounds to reveal you are carrying. It is concealed carry for a reason.

Now, once they found out and requested you do not carry in their home, then you must respect their wishes. Number one, it's the right thing to do. Number two, you have now been given a legal verbal notice.

For WolfeJager, the only thing you can do is talk to them and try to show them how safe it is. Get your Dad to join this forum, etc. Converts CAN be made, you just must do it with finesse.