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bigred90gt wrote:

Mel wrote:

bigred90gt wrote:

RicosRevenge wrote:RoyGBiv, I guess there is... I'll try the old touch football routine next time... ONE mississippi, TWO mississippi...

There is no requirement to stop for any given time at a stop sign or light. The only requirement is to come to a complete stop.

Actually I believe the rule is; You must come to a complete stop; AND THEN proceed only when it is safe to do so.

Yes, this is true, but it is not really relevant to the discussion and I just figured it was common sense not to proceed when it was NOT safe to do so. I was just pointing out that there is no requirement to be stopped for any given period of time, only a requirement to come to a complete stop.

If you are 2 states to the east of us, then they require you to count like that before proceeding.

Seriously, only a complete stop is all that is technically required. We were taught in uniform traffic school that if the momentum of the vehicle had not settled (i.e. the body of the vehicle was still moving from a real fast stop), then a complete stop was not made. It is still a questionable thing.

In the OP's case, sounds like this officer was using this as his supposed probable cause to stop the vehicle, then go fishing.

Which bring up a question for the active LEO's on the forum. Do the dashcams these days record all the time or only when the emergency lights are turned on? I know they can be manually activated, but wondered if in general the supposed improper stop at the stop sign would have been on video if in the view of the dashcam?

RicosRevenge wrote:So, do I have to or not???

No, you do not HAVE to. But it is a good idea since they will find out anyway and ask about it.

Beiruty wrote:

RicosRevenge wrote:

Beiruty wrote:By law:
1) You MUST present both your DL and your CHL while carrying when requested by LEO.
2) The law has been amended as there is no more penalty for failure to do 1).
3) You still have to do 1).

Great, please show me where that law is so I know.

Edited for correctness.

Actually better, but still not 100%. To be nit-picky, see my correction above.

Beiruty wrote:By law:
1) You should present both your DL and your CHL, carrying or otherwise when requested by LEO.
2) The law has been amended as there is no more penalty for failure to do 1).
3) You still have to do 1).

Incorrect on number 1. You only have to present your CHL when asked for ID if you are carrying. Not required if not carrying. However, I feel it is a good idea to go ahead and present it and advise you are not carrying since they will see the CHL status when they run your license and come back to ask. Better to be up front about it and put them at ease IMO.

EDIT TO ADD: And, it is correct that there is no longer a penalty for not displaying it. And it never was a felony, just a potential suspension of your CHL.