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by Keith B
Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:05 am
Forum: Instructors' Corner
Topic: `Lowering the 10 hour min. would be nice
Replies: 61
Views: 9971

Re: `Lowering the 10 hour min. would be nice

Greybeard wrote:Quote: "Florida will accept any class taught by a NRA instructor and the instructor can just make up his own class certificate for the student."

Does this mean that the certificate for the (no-shooting) "NRA Home Firearm Safety Course" is what the "ex-Utah" instructors are now using for students to submit for the Florida CCW?
Florida accepts State Hunters Ed and Safety, a CCL from another state, Law Enforcement training or proof of shooting from competitions or military and doesn't specify that you have to shoot for the class. However, the NRA courses in subparagraph 2 and 3, or the made up course in 7 listed below require they demonstrate they can safely discharge a firearm for the instructor. I have heard at least one instructor has them shoot wax bullets with a primer-only charge in class to get by this requirement. :banghead:

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FL 790.06 wrote: (h) Demonstrates competence with a firearm by any one of the following:
1. Completion of any hunter education or hunter safety course approved by the Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission or a similar agency of another state;
2. Completion of any National Rifle Association firearms safety or training course;
3. Completion of any firearms safety or training course or class available to the general public offered by a law enforcement, junior college, college, or private or public institution or organization or firearms training school, utilizing instructors certified by the National Rifle Association, Criminal Justice Standards and Training Commission, or the Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services;
4. Completion of any law enforcement firearms safety or training course or class offered for security guards, investigators, special deputies, or any division or subdivision of law enforcement or security enforcement;
5. Presents evidence of equivalent experience with a firearm through participation in organized shooting competition or military service;
6. Is licensed or has been licensed to carry a firearm in this state or a county or municipality of this state, unless such license has been revoked for cause; or
7. Completion of any firearms training or safety course or class conducted by a state-certified or National Rifle Association certified firearms instructor;

A photocopy of a certificate of completion of any of the courses or classes; or an affidavit from the instructor, school, club, organization, or group that conducted or taught said course or class attesting to the completion of the course or class by the applicant; or a copy of any document which shows completion of the course or class or evidences participation in firearms competition shall constitute evidence of qualification under this paragraph; any person who conducts a course pursuant to subparagraph 2., subparagraph 3., or subparagraph 7., or who, as an instructor, attests to the completion of such courses, must maintain records certifying that he or she observed the student safely handle and discharge the firearm;
by Keith B
Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:59 am
Forum: Instructors' Corner
Topic: `Lowering the 10 hour min. would be nice
Replies: 61
Views: 9971

Re: WORKING ON LOWERING THE 10 HOUR MIN..

creitsma wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
point blank CHL wrote:...10 hours is to long and most other States have shorter classes and some States stopped using there own instructors and started using NRA instructors...
What states use NRA Instructors to teach a state class? Do you know of any states that abandoned their own state classes in favor of NRA classes? Some states accept NRA classes, like the NRA Basic Pistol Class, but that's an 8 hour class. Alice Tripp and I have been talking about lowering the new and renewal CHL class to 4 hours exclusive of the range time.
Yes...For one Arizona has dropped there certified instructors and now accept any NRA class including the 3 to 4 hour NRA First Steps Pistol class.....Florida also accepts the 3 to 4 hour NRA First Steps Pistol class....I know AZ has open carry without license but they still need a license to carry concealed in most places in AZ and they certified there own instructors and had class guid lines in place like Texas does but they have dropped there instructors all together...My Point was that a 10 hour min. time is to long and should be looked at..Since Instructors teach this class i thought we could all speak out but it just went every where...I did not plan on posting negative comments about any one..Florida will accept any class taught by a NRA instructor and the instructor can just make up his own class certificate for the student.The 10 hour min. needs to be reviewed....
Missouri accepts an NRA certified pistol instructor or NRA law enforcement instructor certification for instructors. However, you are required to submit a class and course outline to the Sheriff of your local county to be approved by them to be certified to teach a course and issue the CHL certification.

As a side note, Missouri is an open carry state, but allows municipalities or counties (St. Louis County) to preempt state law and ban open carry. They also have unlicensed motor vehicle carry, open or concealed (concealed in areas where there is no open carry) and that is not allowed to be preempted.

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