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Bob in Big D wrote:I understand what you are saying and don't disagree with you. I would find It difficult to start shooting at the BGS even if he had a gun to her head. For LEO's that train for these situations and like yourself that have faced these situations, it may be an easier decision as your training kicks in. I don't have the benifit of your training or experience so I know I would take a more conservative approach right or wrong.

That is the whole dilemma you have in any situation, no matter what amount of training you have. Unfortunately you have literally a split second to make a decision, but it is in that split second you hope to make the right decision. If you hesitate, you or someone else may be dead; shoot too quickly and you may be wrong. It is a place you never want to be in if you can avoid it at all.

Bob in Big D wrote:

Keith B wrote:

Bob in Big D wrote:How did the BGS lock the door and then the CHL not be able to unlock it to get away? Unless the clerk had the key in the door and the BGS took it.
At that point I would draw my weapon but not fire unless the BGS shot someone or came at me. Like in this scenario it is hard to see a clear shot with the adrenalin pumping unless you have lots of training IMHO.

Too many variables here to try and speculate. The only ones who know what happened there are the clerk (now deceased) the CHL and the two BG's. If there is video, then maybe we will be able to tell why this or that did or didn't happen, but until that time Monday morning armchair quarterbacking is fruitless.

My sympathies go to the clerks family and to the CHL holder who has to come to terms with his actions and the decision made.

My sympathies are likewise with the family of the clerk and the CHL.
I just don't think it was a wise move to be aggressive and take the shot(s) in this situation. Hard to say if the BGS would have killed anyone or were just threatening. Until they actually start shooting or come after me, I will be a better witness in a defensive position.

Still all speculation. Unless someone is in THAT exact situation, they do not know how they would react. There are hundreds or thousands of different things that can change one shooting scenario to another, including position of individuals, demeanor of clerk, demeanor of bad guys, demeanor of CHL holder, lighting, ad infinitum. Bottom line saying you would or wouldn't do something in a particular situation is still just a guess.

I was in two different shooting situations as a LEO, and I can think of a million things that could have changed just a little and would have affected the whole situation and whether the guy ended up dead or one of us had. A couple of very small things could have changed and the BG's would still have been alive.

Bob in Big D wrote:How did the BGS lock the door and then the CHL not be able to unlock it to get away? Unless the clerk had the key in the door and the BGS took it.
At that point I would draw my weapon but not fire unless the BGS shot someone or came at me. Like in this scenario it is hard to see a clear shot with the adrenalin pumping unless you have lots of training IMHO.

Too many variables here to try and speculate. The only ones who know what happened there are the clerk (now deceased) the CHL and the two BG's. If there is video, then maybe we will be able to tell why this or that did or didn't happen, but until that time Monday morning armchair quarterbacking is fruitless.

My sympathies go to the clerks family and to the CHL holder who has to come to terms with his actions and the decision made.

I would assume there is security camera video that wil be analyzed and they should be able to tell how the clerk ended up in the crossfire.

Just Google 'Family Dollar robbery' and see how many there have been. There was one here in Plano on April 26th where a guy was dressed as a woman and the store clerks fought back. http://www.the33tv.com/about/station/ne ... 3962.story" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;