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texanjoker wrote:NRA - where were they in the State of CA when they banned all sorts of stuff in the 90's?

Purplehood wrote:

Keith B wrote:... and make sure your voice is heard as a level headed person and you are not perceived as some deranged gun-loving redneck

Darn, that ruined my whole plan of attack!

anygunanywhere wrote:Feinstein: Veterans Have PTSD, Shouldn’t Own “Assault” Rifles

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/0 ... rn-rifles/

The problem with expanding this is that, you know, with the advent of PTSD, which I think is a new phenomenon as a product of the Iraq War, it’s not clear how the seller or transfer of a firearm covered by this bill would verify that an individual was a member or veteran and there was no impairment of that individual with respect to having a weapon like this.

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I think we have to – if you’re going to do this, find a way that veterans who are incapacitated for one reason or another mentally, don’t have access to this kind of weapon.

These are the same senators who will be voting on this other bill regarding mental health. The senate is socialist controlled.

Your expectations are that this will go exactly as legislated?

Think about who the judges are and who appointed them? They answer to no one.

Obamacare passed and no one knew what was in the legislation.

What is this fascination with the word "adjudicated"? The courts and attorneys general can define mental illness in whatever way they choose and find anyone they choose as mentally unfit for whatever reason they decide.

The veterans are going to be the first ones hit with this to keep them from arming and rising up when the hammer falls.

Anygunanywhere

KaiserB wrote:

Keith B wrote: Uh, this is defined in Texas, NOT for Federal. The background check is Federal. You need to make sure you are quoting before you say it has ALREADY been defined.

And in the process of going through court what is the most likely first? Being Adjudicated in the Supreme Court or being adjudicated at a local court, then superior court, then state court, then Federal Court. Think about how the process works within the law.

I knew what I was quoting that is why I had the reference at the bottom.

KaiserB wrote:

mojo84 wrote:What are the disqualifying mental illnesses and who determines who has those disqualifying illnesses? Does it matter to what degree someone must be ill with one of the illnesses to disqualify them from gun ownership?

These details need to be ironed out before an informed decision can be made about whether this is a good idea or not. We don't need another pass it so we can find out what is in it law.

That has ALREADY been defined. 30 seconds on Google will get you this:

(d) For purposes of Subsection (a)(7), a person is incapable of exercising sound judgment with respect to the proper use and storage of a handgun if the person:
(1) has been diagnosed by a licensed physician as suffering from a psychiatric disorder or condition that causes or is likely to cause substantial impairment in judgment, mood, perception, impulse control, or intellectual ability;
(2) suffers from a psychiatric disorder or condition described by Subdivision (1) that:
(A) is in remission but is reasonably likely to redevelop at a future time; or
(B) requires continuous medical treatment to avoid redevelopment;
(3) has been diagnosed by a licensed physician, determined by a review board or similar authority, or declared by a court to be incompetent to manage the person's own affairs; or
(4) has entered in a criminal proceeding a plea of not guilty by reason of insanity.
(e) The following constitutes evidence that a person has a psychiatric disorder or condition described by Subsection (d)(1):
(1) involuntary psychiatric hospitalization;
(2) psychiatric hospitalization;
(3) inpatient or residential substance abuse treatment in the preceding five-year period;
(4) diagnosis in the preceding five-year period by a licensed physician that the person is dependent on alcohol, a controlled substance, or a similar substance; or
(5) diagnosis at any time by a licensed physician that the person suffers or has suffered from a psychiatric disorder or condition consisting of or relating to:
(A) schizophrenia or delusional disorder;
(B) bipolar disorder;
(C) chronic dementia, whether caused by illness, brain defect, or brain injury;
(D) dissociative identity disorder;
(E) intermittent explosive disorder; or
(F) antisocial personality disorder.
(f) Notwithstanding Subsection (d), a person who has previously been diagnosed as suffering from a psychiatric disorder or condition described by Subsection (d) or listed in Subsection (e) is not because of that disorder or condition incapable of exercising sound judgment with respect to the proper use and storage of a handgun if the person provides the department with a certificate from a licensed physician whose primary practice is in the field of psychiatry stating that the psychiatric disorder or condition is in remission and is not reasonably likely to develop at a future time.
(g) Notwithstanding Subsection (a)(2), a person who is at least 18 years of age but not yet 21 years of age is eligible for a license to carry a concealed handgun if the person:
(1) is a member or veteran of the United States armed forces, including a member or veteran of the reserves or national guard;
(2) was discharged under honorable conditions, if discharged from the United States armed forces, reserves, or national guard; and
(3) meets the other eligibility requirements of Subsection (a) except for the minimum age required by federal law to purchase a handgun.
(h) The issuance of a license to carry a concealed handgun to a person eligible under Subsection (g) does not affect the person's ability to purchase a handgun or ammunition under federal law.

Added by Acts 1997, 75th Leg., ch. 165, Sec. 10.01(a), eff. Sept. 1, 1997. Amended by Acts 1999, 76th Leg., ch. 62, Sec. 9.03(a), 9.04(a), eff. Sept. 1, 1999; Acts 2003, 78th Leg., ch. 255, Sec. 1, eff. Sept. 1, 2003.
Amended by:
Acts 2005, 79th Leg., Ch. 486, Sec. 1, eff. September 1, 2005.
Acts 2009, 81st Leg., R.S., Ch. 1146, Sec. 11.03, eff. September 1, 2009.