(numbered for reference)marksiwel wrote:1. Did Obama ever support Slave Reparations? His was not a decedent of slavesUpTheIrons wrote:No, Obama is NOT stupid. Frustrated and angry that not everyone is still on the bandwagon, but by no means stupid. Remember what he said just before the election? "We are five days away from FUNDAMENTALLY TRANSFORMING this country!"texas1234 wrote:Mark there is no question he is not a moron. Obama is brilliant!
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2. Wealth redistribution? Care to post a link?
3. Transforming a Country? Why is that a bad thing?
1. Yes, he did, does, will or not...depending which day you pull from in his career. Being alive I don't think he's a decedent of anything, but a descendant
That is something of a red herring at any rate since there might be a handful of people who's great grandparents were descendant of slaves but they would be rare if extant at all. It would be likened to me getting reparations from the queen of England for the subjugation of Ireland by Charles I. 2. Post a link on wealth redistribution? Are you serious? He is admittedly a progressive. The difference between a progressive and a Marxist is evolution not revolution. All through his campaign, he talked about raising taxes on those that make $250K or more a year. When confronted on national television by "Joe the Plumber" he said it was fair to take money from those that have more than they need and give it to those that don't have enough. The number of examples are literally countless.
3. Well that depends a whole lot on what kind of "change" we're talking about. If it is the restoration of a Constituitional government, personal liberty, self responsibility, yadah yadah, then by all means. Let's get back to where we once belonged. But the stated goal of the progressive movement is to establish an unlimited government that is "responsible" for all aspects of its subjects, er citizens.
Starting with establishment of a government run health care system, you now have health care decisions including end of life decisions in the hands of committees made up of bureaucrats. The insurance companies that are "allowed" to stay in business can not compete and will either disappear or become confined to a more exclusive market, I.E. the "elite". This is what has happened to the private insurance companies that are "still" in existence in England and Canada.
A state run health care system has a different economic model, they want you off the dole as opposed to a pharmaceutical model where it is more lucrative to keep you taking medicines. The upside to this has been the discovery of how wide spread and how many diseases stem from Celiac Sprue; the downside is the advent of exclusions based on personal habits and stage in life. Waiting for life saving treatment becomes the norm, decisions to not treat based on prognosis commonplace. This has all happened, all one has to do is look around.
How would they control weight, freedom and guns? Like they have elsewhere. You eat too much? Guess what, no more diabetic treatments for you. They can't have individuals responsible for their own treatment options, so naturopathy, homeopathy and herbal remedies are gone, probably squeezed out or outlawed all together. Others have already pointed to a multitude of JAMA, CDC et al material that labels "gun violence" as a disease and a preemptive public health issue. What kind of controls do you think could/would be in place if the government was the sole (or controlling) provider for health care.
And the final straw in my book is this. We have a 10 trillion dollar debt, 1.6 deficit this year WITHOUT a health care bill. We have reached the limits on our credit card (China, etc.) and we are looking to Europe for the global economic model (don't ask for links, there's Google and CSpan). What better way to ultimately control your subjects than completely destroy the monetary standard and then adopt one that you have created.
The progressives have been emboldened which has the advantage of bringing them out in the open. The party system itself is a thin disguise as both parties have been infiltrated by progressives and as Jefferson said, the party system will destroy this country.