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Abraham wrote: ↑Thu Sep 20, 2018 9:04 am lefties come here, blurt out their lefty hogwash, get spanked and inevitably move on.

Nothing new.

Vote for Cruz!

twomillenium wrote: ↑Wed Sep 19, 2018 3:38 pm

jar wrote: ↑Wed Sep 19, 2018 3:28 pm

bblhd672 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:52 am

jar wrote: ↑Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:16 am My reasoning is pretty simple; I find the other choice dishonest, untrustworthy, unconnected to reality. I also firmly believe that we do need to regulate gun ownership more than is the current standard. Speaking just of the Texas LTC process I think both the written and proficiency tests were pretty much a joke and definitely need to be made far more difficult.

I also understand that political party has little to do with the issue of gun laws; after all it was Ronald Reagan who as Governor of California signed the law making the possession of a loaded fire arm in public illegal in California. In fact I was living there and a gun carrying Californian at the time.

Some would say that your claims to be "a long term Republican, gun owner and LTC holder" makes you a liar based upon your stated beliefs. Perhaps its the almost standard "I'm a gun owner, but" leftist talking points that would cause someone to think you are nothing but a troll.

Not me, of course, I totally believe you are "a long term Republican, gun owner and LTC holder" who has no connection to Everytown, Moms or Soros.

Another place I support Beto's position rather than Cruz's is related to the protests during the Anthems. I do not see the protests as anything but related to flag or patriotism but rather just what they are said to be by the protesters, a call for increased justice in the US. It is remarkably similar to the protests of the late 60s that were the genesis of the ban on loaded firearms in California back in 1967. At that time there was a segment of our population that felt threatened by our own government and that they needed to be armed to protect themselves and their families. They looked at the US Constitution as the support for just that position and so lawfully and without committing violence demonstrated, not by kneeling but rather by exercising their 2nd Amendment Rights with a march to the State Capitol carrying loaded rifles.

The Republican Party has had a Liberal component for at least most of my life. I was more a Rockefeller Republican than a Goldwater Republican yet also supported Goldwater when he ran for President. I definitely consider myself to be far to the left of the current Republican mainstream on many issues and far to the right of many Democratic and even current Presidential positions.

The action Reagan and both the Republican & Democratic Legislature took in California were directly intended to stop the protests; to take away both the Free Speech rights as well as the right to carry arms. It was a statement that as citizens we do NOT have the right to protect ourselves from direct violence from the STATE.

Under the US system of elections unlike the English Parliamentary system we can vote for the individual and not just a Party. This thread is about whether or not Beto might win the mid term election. I actually doubt that Beto will win even though he will likely win convincingly here in the Valley.

I also agree that Beto will not win and I am door knocking for Cruz.( I have already convinced 3 to remove Beto signs was they were politely shown their ignorance of the voting records for Beto vs. that of Cruz.
I am also convince that you (jar) are a troll or either cannot think well for yourself. Not trying to be mean. Sometimes the truth is painful but not all pain is a bad thing.

bblhd672 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:52 am

jar wrote: ↑Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:16 am My reasoning is pretty simple; I find the other choice dishonest, untrustworthy, unconnected to reality. I also firmly believe that we do need to regulate gun ownership more than is the current standard. Speaking just of the Texas LTC process I think both the written and proficiency tests were pretty much a joke and definitely need to be made far more difficult.

I also understand that political party has little to do with the issue of gun laws; after all it was Ronald Reagan who as Governor of California signed the law making the possession of a loaded fire arm in public illegal in California. In fact I was living there and a gun carrying Californian at the time.

Some would say that your claims to be "a long term Republican, gun owner and LTC holder" makes you a liar based upon your stated beliefs. Perhaps its the almost standard "I'm a gun owner, but" leftist talking points that would cause someone to think you are nothing but a troll.

Not me, of course, I totally believe you are "a long term Republican, gun owner and LTC holder" who has no connection to Everytown, Moms or Soros.