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The Annoyed Man wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 3:11 pm I tend not to worry about ATF changing their minds about pistol braces. With what we saw happen to bump stocks most recently, I take it as a given that some fascistic bastard in gov’t is going to get the AR platform banned someday in ALL if its formats, and registered SBR versus pistol will be a moot point anyway - they’ll BOTH be banned, along with carbines and full length rifles.

It's possible but that requires new federal legislation.

Ruling pistol braces that can be shouldered are stocks is a slam dunk for ATF, especially compared to the bump stock ban. Federal law still allows citizens to register SBRs so there's no "taking" argument. It's just a requirement to pay the tax. Even if Trump doesn't push it as his next "reasonable restriction" he set a precedent for the next POTUS, and SCOTUS pretty much green lit the move by not granting cert on bump stocks.

denwego wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 11:54 amBy the way, I have a 7.5" barrel AR SBRs and GOOD LORD, 7.5" is PUNISHING on the ears. If you go with the off the shelf Victor pistol 7.5", you should be aware that shooting it indoors is literally better than dying in a gunfight and not much else. I use a 10.5" unless I have no choice on the shorter barrel for some reason.

A 7.5" 300BO isn't bad but shooting a 7.5" 5.56 makes an impression

On the other hand, a 7.5" 22LR AR is much fun.

If they have the same barrel length, there's no reason an AR pistol can't be as short as an AR SBR. The receiver extension (buffer tube) is the limiting factor, and you can buy shorter extensions (or a LAW folder) for either configuration.

SBR advantages: real stock, no problems if ATF changes their mind about pistol braces, not a handgun so LTC isn't required to carry and 46.035/30.06/30.07 don't apply.

Pistol advantages: no $200 tax, no wait, no CLEO notification, transport across state lines without notifying gov, private buy/sell without gov paperwork, can be used by friends/family, et cetera.