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by Grumpy1993
Fri May 10, 2019 5:03 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Kamala Harris would proclaim new gun-control measures through executive orders (presidential decrees?)
Replies: 49
Views: 14733

Re: Kamala Harris would proclaim new gun-control measures through executive orders (presidential decrees?)

WildRose wrote: Tue Apr 30, 2019 5:22 am
Grumpy1993 wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:49 am
WildRose wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:24 pm Making bumpstocks illegal simply required changing a few words in a regulation already put in place under existing statutes.
Obama wasn't able to get them banned. Twice, was it? But Trump decides that's going to be his legacy for gun owners. Not getting rid of regulatory (not legislative) gun free zones, like he promised when wanted our votes, but more regulations that won't do anything to reduce violent crime.

With friends like that, who needs Kamala Harris.
Obama never made any serious effort to do it, he simply wanted to use bumpstocks as yet another hammer against the gun owning community. Had he been serious about banning them he simply could have acted in the same manner by rewriting the regulation.
So you're saying Trump is more serious about pushing unconstitutional gun control than Obama ever was? I guess that's one explanation for the current state of affairs.
by Grumpy1993
Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:49 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Kamala Harris would proclaim new gun-control measures through executive orders (presidential decrees?)
Replies: 49
Views: 14733

Re: Kamala Harris would proclaim new gun-control measures through executive orders (presidential decrees?)

WildRose wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:24 pm Making bumpstocks illegal simply required changing a few words in a regulation already put in place under existing statutes.
Obama wasn't able to get them banned. Twice, was it? But Trump decides that's going to be his legacy for gun owners. Not getting rid of regulatory (not legislative) gun free zones, like he promised when wanted our votes, but more regulations that won't do anything to reduce violent crime.

With friends like that, who needs Kamala Harris.
by Grumpy1993
Sat Apr 27, 2019 12:23 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Kamala Harris would proclaim new gun-control measures through executive orders (presidential decrees?)
Replies: 49
Views: 14733

Re: Kamala Harris would proclaim new gun-control measures through executive orders (presidential decrees?)

baytownb wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2019 7:01 am
Grumpy1993 wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2019 11:42 am
Ms. Harris said that, if elected, she would sign an executive order mandating background checks for customers of any firearms dealer who sells more than five guns a year. The executive actions would also include more strident regulation of gun manufacturers that could result in revoked licenses or prosecution, as well as an attempt to close the loophole that allows some domestic abusers to purchase guns if their victim is an unwedded partner.
I know some people have a knee jerk reaction to anything proposed by Democrats but they're better ideas than banning bump stocks.

1. It seems reasonable to categorize somebody selling more than five guns a year as a gun dealer. Texas requires a car dealer license if you sell five or more cars in a year.

2. I have no problem with ATF enforcing current laws on manufacturers and revoking licenses for significant violations. I would hope this happens already but maybe it's more work than online sting operations for freeze plugs and solvent traps.

3. I'm not sure what she's talking about here. Somebody can be convicted of domestic violence if they're not married to their victim. If somebody has a DV conviction, they're already disqualified unless they're a protected class, and I have no problem with eliminating that loophole.
Ridiculous, doesn't matter if you like them or not, implementing new law such as this through an EO is unconstitutional,
Like Trump's bump stock ban? Has it been overturned? Has the supreme court granted cert or a stay pending a final ruling?

1. There's already federal law requiring gun dealers to have an FFL. There's nothing stopping BATFE from making an administrative ruling "clarifying" the definition of what it means to be “engaged in the business” and need a FFL.

2. There's already federal law regarding gun manufacturers and gun dealers. Enforcement is a duty of the executive branch.

3. There's already federal law banning access to firearms by people convicted of crimes of domestic violence. (the Lautenberg Amendment)
by Grumpy1993
Wed Apr 24, 2019 11:42 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Kamala Harris would proclaim new gun-control measures through executive orders (presidential decrees?)
Replies: 49
Views: 14733

Re: Kamala Harris would proclaim new gun-control measures through executive orders (presidential decrees?)

Ms. Harris said that, if elected, she would sign an executive order mandating background checks for customers of any firearms dealer who sells more than five guns a year. The executive actions would also include more strident regulation of gun manufacturers that could result in revoked licenses or prosecution, as well as an attempt to close the loophole that allows some domestic abusers to purchase guns if their victim is an unwedded partner.
I know some people have a knee jerk reaction to anything proposed by Democrats but they're better ideas than banning bump stocks.

1. It seems reasonable to categorize somebody selling more than five guns a year as a gun dealer. Texas requires a car dealer license if you sell five or more cars in a year.

2. I have no problem with ATF enforcing current laws on manufacturers and revoking licenses for significant violations. I would hope this happens already but maybe it's more work than online sting operations for freeze plugs and solvent traps.

3. I'm not sure what she's talking about here. Somebody can be convicted of domestic violence if they're not married to their victim. If somebody has a DV conviction, they're already disqualified unless they're a protected class, and I have no problem with eliminating that loophole.

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