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Ranger, my Dad used the Bonham VA. He lived in Paris & even though it was '96 when he died, he said he did not want to go to the one in Dallas. It was pretty rough then.
I did not intend to think your perp was a undercover cop. We have all got to bring up stuff others don't think of. First time I got into "things unthought of" was several yr ago. Here in Texas we cannot carry at any professional sporting event. Baseball, basketball, football. That includes also soccer & hockey.
One day I was talking to a friend here about the rodeo & how good a show it was. "You did not carry did you?" Sure, you know i am 24-7. That is a professional sporting event. PRCA is Pro Rodeo Cowboy Association. From there we started looking.
Here in Deep East Texas we have a "Forrest Festival" in October. In the forest festival there is a Professional Lumberjack Competition. You can carry in the FF but can't climb into the bleachers & watch the Lumberjacks. You don't even go in a fence let alone a building.

The possibility of the vice P. impersonater is not that far fetched. We & many communities have had the Female officers on the streets for a while. Haddn't thought O that but shore is a good post.

Venus Pax wrote:My main problem with pepper spray/ OC, is that you need to know which way the wind is blowing and often don't have time to test it before deploying.

You are right here. I don't really like that part either but pepper is still the best intermediate defense we have at 6ft. Only time I have had to present a weapon of any sort has been for dogs. (3times) Kubatons, knives, keys, ...all require a closer incounter. Some day there may be a wireless, small, shock of some sort. For those that have asthme as you the risk probably exceeds any possible benefit.

Good job John.

Several yrs ago I started w/ my Mother on no-shoot personal defense situations. At 75 (now) she is an excellent shot for her age but there are far more incidents like you stated than those that go sour to the point of gunfire. Now there are 3 of us at the range that work on no shoot situations on a regular basis. This includes a lot of hollering. We get some strange looks. Outdoor range so we can do this.
We actually take the things others have experienced or newspaper articles & train from there. You did well. Consider letting this incident modify your training to address the less that lethal as well as the lethal. You can draw & fire your weapon from cover in probably 3.5 sec or so. How fast can you get to your pepper. Mom actually beat the socks off me here. When we started we all found that it took well over twice as long to get to pepper than gun. We had a hard time learning to deploy it. Now we even take the batteries out of cell phones & call the incident in. Be surprised how clumsey we were to start with getting them out & getting the 911 punched. We knew we were missing the #s some.
This less than lethal training has reemphasized the truth that you will be reduced to your daily level of CONSTANT training. You will not only DO what you have trained to do, but you will say what you have trained yourself to say.
We have now talked about adding the officer interview to the shoot incidents. This will give us the practice of IMMEDIATELY saying "I don't want to make a statement until I have talked w/ my lawyer."
This has been as valuable as the shoot no shoot training.
DWS our session is what triggered the next step to the LEO interview. Thank you for that day & the fun.