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by Douva
Mon Dec 20, 2010 3:39 pm
Forum: 2011 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: Unlicensed open-carry poll: 30.06
Replies: 32
Views: 5676

Re: Unlicensed open-carry poll: 30.06

RPB wrote:
Douva wrote:
Katygunnut wrote:I can currently open carry a rifle into an unmarked business. I don't think that a hand gun will incite more fear than an AK-47.
Why don't you mosey on into Whole Foods with your AK-47 slung over your shoulder, and let the rest of us know how that works out for you?
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Assuming it's 30.06, Precisely why if I had to shop there, I'd look into giving the Feds more personal info about myself, and paying a $5.00 tax to carry a concealed AOW in instead.... but that's just me, I don't shop there nor have any 30.06 signs in my entire city currently.

It seems I'd be allowed in places "firearms" aren't prohibited, unlicensed, to carry open or concealed, regardless of 30.06 signs.
But you have to fork over $5.00 and give your info to the Feds. :???:
I'm actually quite surprised this method isn't more popular; no class required, ignore 30.06 signs etc. But, a few spots; gun-free school zones don't afford an exemption, since not carrying under a CHL... so having both could be a benefit.

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Actually, I mention it because it's one of those places where you're almost surprised not to find a 30.06 sign. Katygunnut seemed to suggest that because it's legal to openly carry an AK-47 in an "unmarked" business, we shouldn't be worried that allowing people to openly carry handguns into "unmarked" businesses will cause concern. But the reality is that if you were to walk into someplace like Whole Foods carrying an AK-47, the management would probably ask the local SWAT team to escort you from the building and then ask you, in no uncertain terms, never to return (with or without your rifle). And then they might just throw up a 30.06 sign for good measure. The fact that it's legal to do something doesn't mean we wouldn't see a negative backlash if someone actually did it.

The act of carrying a long gun into a place of business is legal because the people of Texas don't want the state legislature to try to narrowly define every possible legality and illegality. But that doesn't mean the people won't decide that the legislature needs to define the law a bit more narrowly if people start walking into Whole Foods carrying AK-47s. Likewise, it's reasonable to assume that open carry (or even the highly-publicized "threat" of open carry) might be met with harsh reactions from business owners, patrons, etc.
by Douva
Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:13 am
Forum: 2011 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: Unlicensed open-carry poll: 30.06
Replies: 32
Views: 5676

Re: Unlicensed open-carry poll: 30.06

Katygunnut wrote:I can currently open carry a rifle into an unmarked business. I don't think that a hand gun will incite more fear than an AK-47.
Why don't you mosey on into Whole Foods with your AK-47 slung over your shoulder, and let the rest of us know how that works out for you?
by Douva
Mon Dec 06, 2010 5:46 pm
Forum: 2011 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: Unlicensed open-carry poll: 30.06
Replies: 32
Views: 5676

Re: Unlicensed open-carry poll: 30.06

As I said in the other thread, it doesn't matter if anyone actually chooses to carry openly or not. The media hype alone will most likely be enough to bring on the 30.06 signs. And the handful who did carry openly would NOT go unnoticed.

To the poster who suggested that businesses would actually take down their 30.06 signs because they'd prefer that customers engage in concealed carry, rather than open carry, I'd like to introduce you to my friend Reality. The Texas Legislature will NEVER (and I say this as someone fond of saying, "never say never") pass an open carry bill that doesn't provide private property owners a lawful means of prohibiting open carry on their property. And as Charles has repeatedly stated, they're not likely to create two different signage requirements (one for concealed carry and one for open carry). So in the real world in which we live, there is no plausible way that the legalization of open carry would lead to a decrease in 30.06 postings.

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