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by apostate
Wed Nov 09, 2011 11:39 pm
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: What should I have done = 51% sign
Replies: 51
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Re: What should I have done = 51% sign

fagancarco wrote:Just as an old or improperly worded 30.06 makes it legal to carry in a establishment, a 51% sign improperly placed would do the same. I see no real difference. IMO

I'm open to correction if there's a legal opinion out there somewhere, or wording in the law I haven't seen.
Other than the phrase "makes it legal" I agree. There's a defense to prosecution if the 51% sign doesn't meet the Section 411.204, Government Code requirements for notice, much like the defense to prosecution in 30.05 for CHL .

Consider a bar that fails to post 51% signs at the entrances and a store that posts a not-quite 30.06 sign in English (only) with 1/2" letters. Other than the potential penalty, I see no significant difference between carrying in the bar and carrying in the store, with regard to legality, ethics, or good manners.
by apostate
Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:00 pm
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: What should I have done = 51% sign
Replies: 51
Views: 8427

Re: What should I have done = 51% sign

C-dub wrote:
RiverCity.45 wrote: More likely, the owners got the standard kit of signs from TABC and mistakenly posted the 51% sign in the bar area because they do not understand the rules. I have seen this before (e.g., Hofbrau in San Antonio)
It's not exactly a mistake to place it in the bar area
Well... Texas Government Code 411.204 requires a 51% establishment to "prominently display at each entrance to the business premises a sign that complies with the requirements of Subsection (c)."

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