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Has someone seen SB 905 on Local and Uncontested calender itself? The status from the website shows that the house committee recommended it for the calendar -but that calendar's committee hasn't placed it yet (Usually says 'considered in calendars' when it is actually considered, and "placed on 'blah calendar" when actually added to a calendar)

hirundo82 wrote:

artx wrote:

Jasonw560 wrote:Calendars met about 2 minutes ago. So that means they're out now.

Wonder if they'll pull SB905 out for a vote?

Has the committee hearing happened yet? Believe that was scheduled for today. You won't see it go to calenders until after the hearing. The status will change to notify the committee report sent to calendars etc.

According to the website it is scheduled to be heard today, but according to the committee schedule they heard it yesterday. Regardless, it hasn't been reported as recieved in Calendars.

ETA: I just noticed hearing minutes are posted. SB905 was heard yesterday in Criminal Jurisprudence; Ms. Mica with the NRA testified in favor. It was amended unanimously (amendment offered by Aliseda, an A-rated freshman Republican, and reported favorably.

I wonder what the amendment was!!! Too bad the website can take a few days to update.

Jasonw560 wrote:Calendars met about 2 minutes ago. So that means they're out now.

Wonder if they'll pull SB905 out for a vote?

Has the committee hearing happened yet? Believe that was scheduled for today. You won't see it go to calenders until after the hearing. The status will change to notify the committee report sent to calendars etc.

Do you consider campus carry and employee parking lots baby steps? The bills that didn't pass for 3 straight sessions (parking lots) or one session ( campus carry), even with the full force of NRA/TSRA and grassroots support?

Who are the folks that are able to make these huge gains that are worth supporting at the expense of any smaller forward progress? Where is the coalition of legislators? Someone has to put these groups of reps/senators together and get them to agree on the legislation/companion bills to be filed, champion bills, make sure they are assigned to friendly committees, get placed on the right calender, be voted on without gutting amendments, be reconciled if necessary between the house/senate, and finally meet the approval of the governor.

Remember anything with SB905 is a bonus, making lemonade out of the original lemon bill.

The thing is - everyone is applying rational thought to something that is frequently completely irrational - politics and politicians!

Sometimes you can go for the jugular move - but more frequently politics is a chess game - small moves that appear disconnected come together later to get what you wanted from the get go.

Yes, we all know that folks that have renewed 3 times are the same law abiding folks as people that got their license yesterday. But if the coalition of politicians that we have to work with won't go for the jugular approach - all CHL holders exempt now - is it better to give up and get nothing, or set the moves in play to be finished next session?

In 2013, It is easier to say in a bill, "we've had all 3rd renewal chl holders exempt, and like we said, there have been no issues. This bill removes the renewal restriction"

Human emotion wants to slam any bill that doesn't do something for me personally - fight down that feeling and look at the endgame.

Also remember that we're seeing a possible pathway to all chl holders getting restrictions lessened in time - this is a testament to Charles, Alice and TSRA to get something from a bill that was A) going to pass no matter what anyway and B) almost universally slammed here.

Carrying in a 51% location is a big deal - it has taken other states several sessions and a lot of public blowback - this is a quieter way that can get us there.