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sjfcontrol wrote:Ah! Now the comment makes more sense -- I agree!

Saw your signature. Good luck getting your plastic...I hear things are running a little faster these days...so if you went pending 11/2 I hope you'll see it before the end of the year. I started my CHL in May 1996 and it took me until that October to get it. I've had renewals go through in around 30 days, but my last one was in '06 good till '11.

Anyway, back on topic. I think the "chemical dispensing device" part of Texas Penal Code is to prohibit poison gas bombs and massive chemical dispensers. Looks like the typical pepper spray device is specifically exempted. What would Dog the Bounty Hunter do without his big ole pepper sprayers in double holsters?

sjfcontrol wrote:

wheelgun1958 wrote:

lrb111 wrote:I think it was DPS that told us the larger "fire extinguisher" size used for crowd control is the one illegal for civilians. As well as the O.C. grenades.

If your not in the military and subject to the UCMJ, you are a civilian. If you recall recently, the Ft Hood reports went to great lengths to differentiate between military police and civilian police.

Relevance?

Citizens who are not law enforcement officers resent police referring to them as "civilians". Police who are not on active duty in the Armed Forces of the United States are civilians too. This whole militarization of the civil law enforcement forces encourages an us vs. them attitude. Police have legitimately upped their firepower in the past few decades as they have faced more heavily armed criminals. However it seems there has also been a trend toward military style tactics, uniforms, behavior, etc. that is not really appropriate in a CIVILIAN law enforcement context. Citizens are not the "enemy" and police are not the "Army".