I guess I wasn't clear.frankie_the_yankee wrote:How and why would that be?TDDude wrote: It may be "legal" to have only one drink but if anything happens, a cival attorney will kill you in court no matter what the law states.
We always hear statements like this as in, "If you do 'X', you can get sued big time." But where's the beef?
Show me someone who was sued and lost, after doing a "good shoot", because at some time before the shooting they had had one drink. Note: Not just someone who was sued and lost. Someone who lost after a good shoot, (i.e. not after a questionable or bad shoot), because they had one drink.
You seem to have bad luck in picking out instructors. In two out of two tries, you seem to have hooked up with instructors who are either badly informed or who sometimes prefer to preach their own opinions instead of providing their students with accurate information.TDDude wrote: I haven't looked it up but both the instructors I had said it was a "0" tolerance policy in Texas.
I have had two instructors too. My first one did a good job and stuck to the facts. The second one was one of these preachy blowhard types, IMO, who seemed to enjoy showering the class with his sometimes-strange opinions as to what was correct and what was not. This included but was not limited to the drinking issue. He also had some opinions, presented as "facts" about the legal boundaries of lawful self defense, 30.06 signage, etc., that were at odds what I have read or otherwise come to know about from many other sources far better-informed than he.
I took issue with him a few times when he said something particularly egregious, but in the end I decided to just get through the renewal class as quickly as possible and forget about it. (I was successful at the first, not so with the second.)
From the DPS website FAQ.
Q. Can I carry a handgun if I am drinking alcohol?
A. "Carrying" while drinking is not prohibited, but it is a criminal offense to carry while intoxicated.
I never implied I wasn't going to not be able to protect myself, I was implying that I wasn't going to drink.
If you have to even step into a court room, you have lost.Show me someone who was sued and lost, after doing a "good shoot", because at some time before the shooting they had had one drink. Note: Not just someone who was sued and lost. Someone who lost after a good shoot, (i.e. not after a questionable or bad shoot), because they had one drink.
In my very average life of 48 years I've discovered that words like "Truth" and "Legal" and "Moral" mean nothing in a court room. It's all about money. Everything revolves around what can be "proved" and proving anything in court takes piles of money. Anybody heard what's happening to our LEO's in the Border patrol lately? The jails have quite a few agents that are now incarcerated just because they were not able to "prove" that they were in the right and right now the political winds are in the illegal's favor.
I've had friends setup and sued and I've had friends arrested for bad charges that they had a hard time defending. My own small personal experience involved family court but the lesson was learned and learned well. Stay out of a courtroom at all costs.
Perhaps so. I'll give you that one.You seem to have bad luck in picking out instructors.
Point of story:
If you guys can afford to plunk down $100k-$200k or so on court costs and attorney fees while being "right", drink up and more power to you. I hope you get a jury that isn't full of OJ idiots. One can do everything correct and even win, yet still end up ruined.
"Waitress, I'll have tea with my meal please."
That was my point.
