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by txmatt
Fri Dec 04, 2009 1:29 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Traffic Stops and Such
Replies: 27
Views: 3765

Re: Traffic Stops and Such

surprise_i'm_armed wrote:txmatt:
When the DPS trooper disarmed you, did he have you place your
hands on your vehicle and remove your gun from its holster himself?
I would not think that he would allow you to put your hand on your own
gun.
He had me hold my arms out and removed it from my IWB holster himself
Was he careful with your weapon? Did he ask about one in the pipe
and your gun's safety status?
He handled it properly. I was carrying my j frame S&W so I guess he (correctly) assumed all chambers were loaded and that there is no manual safety

When he gave you the weapon back, had he unloaded it in order to give you
the gun and ammo separate from one another?
This is the one part that didn't really make sense to me. He put my loaded revolver on my tank bag with me standing between his truck and my bike with no instructions as to whether I should wait for him to leave or what. He did tell me where he was putting it several times (as though I'm not going to pay attention to where he puts my weapon!)

I assume that your LEO did a much better job than the game warden
who pulled a CHL's XD out and shot out the front tire of his 4 wheeler!!

SIA
lol, Yes, as I stated in my first post he was totally professional about it.
by txmatt
Thu Dec 03, 2009 8:15 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Traffic Stops and Such
Replies: 27
Views: 3765

Re: Traffic Stops and Such

While many people (including many police, according to reports) think they can disarm during every encounter, that's not really what the law says.
Yeah, well I guess he reasonably believed it was necessary. And it sounds like a lot of DPS troopers reasonably believe it is necessary rather frequently. I don't see how that is any different from the law saying it's up to the officer; in fact, that's almost exactly what the law says. I wish there were a higher standard to meet for disarmament, but there isn't.
by txmatt
Thu Dec 03, 2009 9:35 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Traffic Stops and Such
Replies: 27
Views: 3765

Re: Traffic Stops and Such

I've been disarmed once during a traffic stop and that was with DPS. This is consistent with other reports on this board. The trooper was professional about it, asked me where the gun was, told me he would take it and did. He did not perform any other search of me or my belongings. I would much rather not be disarmed, but, the law says it's up to the officer and if that's all he does (i.e. no nasty commentary on why I'm carrying or using it as a pretext for other searches) I'm not going to get too upset. It did not add any significant additional inconvenience.

Other times I've been stopped the officer has just asked where it was and told me not to reach for it or something like that.

In short, it's just not really a problem.

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