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by cxm
Thu Jul 03, 2008 9:00 am
Forum: LEO Contacts & Bloopers
Topic: First LEO contact - disarmed and unloaded
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Re: First LEO contact - disarmed and unloaded

We need to consider what the law says here...

First, it does not give LEOs blanket authority to disarm CHL holders... the officer must have "reasonable" belief that it is necessary for the reasons stated in the law... and it does NOT authorize a blanked policy of disarming everyone... an officer who says he disarms everyone is violating the law.

That said, arguing with a cop on the street isn't a good idea...go along and deal with the issue afterward.

We need to keep in mind LEOs must obey the law too. There is nothing wrong with politely asking after the official contact with the officer ends why he disarmed you... if the reason is something like "because I can" you should make a complaint with the chief of the department involved... a formal complaint probably isn't requried, simply a letter to the Chief/Director etc. about the issue.

If we don't know our rights, we can't defend them, and if we don't defend them you will surely lose them.

FWIW

Chuck

CHL/LEO wrote:
...where a simple traffic stop should result in a LEO disarming a CHL holder.
Maybe like a previous member posted - it wasn't a simple traffic stop. We'll never know unless dwsUSA were to contact the Trooper (name and badge number should be on the warning ticket he received) and just ask him why he was disarmed? Unless that happens it's all supposition. Like I mentioned, I've never disarmed anyone unless they were getting arrested.

I personally know of two fellow officers I work with who have been disarmed by DPS Troopers during traffic stops. The troopers knew they were LEOs and still asked them to hand over their guns. When asked why the comment from one trooper was, "because I can" and the other one stated that he disarms everyone he stops including LEOs. He said that the doesn't ever want anyone saying he's a racist or treats certain people different than others. I can at least understand his point of view even though I don't agree with it. The other trooper and his comments are what gives all LEOs a bad name. Just like someone previously posted - just because you can do something doesn't mean that you should.

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