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Jeremae wrote:I think it was Bill Jordan who said:

"The fastest draw is a gun already in hand"

Ayoob stresses this also. If you are aware and react early enough, you are not drawing on the clock.

That's one of the reasons I like pocket carry - on two occasions when I picked up a bad vibe, I just reached into my pocket and took hold of my 340Sc.

Fortunately, I did NOT have to draw either time, but once your hand is actually holding the firearm, once you decide you have to shoot, the time to draw and fire is on the order of 0.5 seconds or less.

And when you don't have to use your sidearm . . . all anyone sees is a guy standing casually there with his hand in his pocket.

I was at an IDPA match several years ago, where we had a "draw and fire at 3 yards ASAP" stage, done without a cover garment, and then repeated with a cover garment.

Only two of us were under 1 second for the "without" portion, and we were the only ones under 2 seconds for the "with" portion.