Double the yardage, and it is still too close for grenades.Soccerdad1995 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:12 am I think of it like this. If I'm shooting someone who is more than 7 yards from me, there are probably better options (than shooting) to end the encounter. So I generally would not expect a need to shoot someone who is farther away.
This is why a shotgun probably makes a better HD gun than a pistol.
All kidding aside, this is why I’d be content just to get any kind of COM hits on a mobile target. If 2 or 3 aren’t enough, then rinse and repeat.
I have little or no experience in personal defense oriented shooting competitions, but it seems to me that the TWO things they don’t seem to account for are (1) your target is most likely mobile, and (2) he may be shooting at you....which places a whole new spin on things.
In fact, I was watching a James Yeager video the other day in which he and John Lovell discussed the "50 Reasons Why John Lovell is Wrong" (https://youtu.be/7Yu4lspZszA). It was actually all in good fun, and informative (IRL, they’re pretty good friends). But one of the things they discussed was the difference in their philosophies about whether or not one ought to be shooting while running for cover. Both had good answers, and the takeaway for me was that there is no one good answer.
Like I said, all I know about shooting competition stages is what I’ve seen on YouTube videos, and that’s not very much. But from what little I can deduce, none of them prepare you for actually shooting a moving target while on the move yourself. I do believe that the training you get from competition is better than not training at all.
On the other hand, I saw Dan Crenshaw say something when being interviewed by Joe Rogan. Speaking about BUD/S and the value of Hell Week, he said a couple of interesting things. First, he said that BUD/S and Hell Week don’t make SEALs. He said that the person who graduates from SEAL training and earns his Trident was already "that guy" before he ever joined the Navy. Guys who join the Navy to prove to themselves that they are "that guy", are exactly the guys who washout and who aren’t "that guy". I guess his point is that special operators (regardless of branch) aren’t made, they’re born. The training just helps them to maximize who they already are. In the civilian world, what if "who we are" just isn’t very much to begin with?
The second thing that Crenshaw said, which I think applies more to this discussion than the other point, is that SEAL training was so hard, and they suffered in training so much, that when they got to combat, it just wasn’t that bad. SEAL trainees get injured, sometimes badly, and sometimes they die in training. So when a SEAL gets hurt or killed in combat, the survivors are better equipped psychologically to deal with it and remain combat effective. I assume that the same kind of principle applies to other special operators from other branches. In any case, there’s no scenario I can imagine where civilian training is so harsh and brutal that the graduates are “combat immunized” so to speak.
Pastor Joe Fox alway says, "do the best you can, with what you’ve got, where you’re at." As a crippled old man who doesn’t move very well anymore, the best I can do is aim small and hope he’s not returning fire. I do wish I’d gotten into this when I was a lot younger.