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ScottDLS wrote:Possession of a handgun by an ADULT (over 18) under 21 is not a crime. Carrying one without a CHL or without meeting terms of MPA or other exemptions is a crime, just like for over 21. In fact, Texas allows active duty/former military under 21 to obtain a CHL. MPA covers adults under 21. 18 is the age of majority in Texas. 21 year old drinking age is irrelevant.

Still think the OP either works for a nut job or is pulling our chain. I can wire money from my bank account with a phone call or fax and good funds are available faster than I could drive over to a local bank and have them count the money.

Scott, let me ask you the following couple of things...

In Texas, we make a CHL exception for active duty military between the ages of 18 and 21. In Texas, an 18 year old cannot buy handgun ammunition, while a 21 year old may do so. So, whatever we might think about the constitutional implications, there is unquestionably a gray legal area for people over 18, but not yet 21. So, where does that come from?

Scenario: You're an LEO, and you make a traffic stop on a 20 year old male. He appears to be nervous... ...more nervous than he should be if all were normal. So you get him out of the car and search the vehicle. In that vehicle, you find a handgun and $150,000 in cash. What are you likely to suspect?

Now, the OP has told us that he is under 21, that he wants to know if he may legally carry a handgun in his vehicle, and that he regularly carries large amounts of cash in the vehicle, even amounts in the "six figures" as he put it. NONE of this is, on its face, illegal.

However, put yourself in that LEO's shoes. Whether the OP's actions are or are not legitimate, the appearance of a nervous young man, gun in possession, and in possession of a huge amount of cash is going to lead that officer to some pretty unfavorable conclusions. IF the officer's conclusion is that the OP is a drug dealer, for instance, then is he using a gun in the commission of a crime? IF the officer thinks that the OP might be a gang member or has known gang associations, then the very fact that he has a gun is illegal, as I understand Texas law.

We only know those "facts" that the OP has given us. I am, like a lot of other guys on this board, the father of a son who is under 21, and the only thing I can do is ask myself, "What advice would I give to my own son, knowing no more than I've been told here?"

seamusTX wrote:If the guy is jerking our collective chain, it's his problem.

A 20-year-old is not a minor. Minors are under 18.

Carrying a weapon illegally is a misdemeanor in Texas except in certain locations such as schools and places that sell alcoholic beverages.

- Jim

Jim, even if it's only a misdemeanor (class A, or B?), it's still possibly a crime, and I wouldn't advise my own (19 year old) son to risk breaking the law without knowing for certain one way or the other, and without consulting an attorney, to take that risk. And whether the age of majority in Texas is 18 or 21, age is still at the core of whether or not the OP's possession of a firearm is legal. I strongly believe that giving this young man advice to go ahead and carry any kind of weapon is irresponsible when A) age is a possible issue; and B) something stinks about his employer's business practices.

It's not just that I think it is wrong, it's also that I don't think it best serves the interests of this board. Others are, or course, free to disagree.

gbjr08 wrote:Now as i said before thank you for your help i have spoken with enough KNOWLEGABLE people about my topic and as far as the rest of you other people two sense why dont you focus on your own job/carreer and not try to express your useless opinions on what you THINK other people job descriptions involve. Thank your for your assistance.

When a 20 year old neophyte lectures an older and more experienced audience about their lack of knowledge (just because they have given the younger, less knowledgeable, less experienced neophyte the benefit of their experience); when that same neophyte doesn't know how to use punctuation; and when that same neophyte advises the older, more experienced audience to focus on their own career track and not make assumptions about the legality of what he does, I am disinclined to give him another minute of serious consideration.

Dude, you didn't want knowledge, you wanted affirmation. If you were as smart as you think you are, you would have asked a lawyer this question instead of going onto a publicly viewed Internet site, presupposing that what you want to do just might possibly be illegal (or you wouldn't have been here asking the question), and fishing for the answer you wanted to hear. But that's cool. The great thing about prison is that you get 3 meals a day, no rent, cable TV, and for a young guy like you, all the "companionship" you could ever ask for. Have fun with that. I hope it works out well for you.

This is a waste of time.

psehorne wrote:

gbjr08 wrote:I have a question for anyone educated about cocealed carry permits. I would like to know if there is any possible way i can carry a handgun. I am only 20, however i feel it necessary to carry a firearm due to the large sums of money i carry for my job. I am a junior accountant and carry very large sums of money for client to make deposits for them sometimes in the six figures. I feel that in doing this it is necessary to carry a weapon for safety purposes. If someone could please help me in finding this out i would really appreciate it.

Guys/Gals, we are being taken for a ride.

I think so too. Electronic transfers - particularly of that size - can be handled without ever having to touch the cash. I've done it myself, and I know it to be true. Banks love servicing client needs when the sums involved are large enough. No sane businessman would entrust hundreds of thousands of dollars in cash (six figures) to a junior accountant of minority age — unless he were laundering money, or something like that.

The whole thing sounds hinkey to me. Besides which, I would never give an underage person advice I wouldn't give to my own son — who is also underage still. And I would definitely not counsel my underage son to carry a concealed handgun, probably illegally, to protect his employer's money. Let's say that he gets stopped by dah po-po on the way to the bank, and the pistol gets discovered in his possession. Most likely, he's going to get arrested, and the legality of the matter will get sorted out by lawyers later. So let's review: Who gets arrested... ...the employer whose money is being protected, or the minor who is in possibly illegal possession of a firearm? Who has to pay the lawyers... ...the employer whose money is being protected, or the minor who is in possibly illegal possession of a firearm? Who gets the felony conviction on his record (preventing him from ever obtaining a CHL down the road)... ...the employer whose money is being protected, or the minor who is in possibly illegal possession of a firearm?

In the meantime, what happens when a minor is busted with a gun and hundreds of thousands in cash? IT GETS SEIZED!!! ...because da po-po know from experience that means that someone is dealing in crack, and it ain't them.

This doesn't pass the smell test, and I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole.