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by The Annoyed Man
Thu Jul 29, 2010 3:59 pm
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Newbie...Question concerning credit union...
Replies: 21
Views: 1665

Re: Newbie...Question concerning credit union...

cditropan1 wrote:The Annoyed Man...I have spent some time looking at hundred of posts on this site...I only wish my credit union had that gun busters sign...then I know I could carry for sure.
As long as A) it is not posted with a compliant 30.06 sign, or B) you are not given verbal notice that you may not carry in the bank (or credit union), then you may do so.

If their signage is non-30.06 compliant, resist the temptation to inform and educate them. Just smile and walk right on past it.

In any case, if the sign is posted inside where you cannot see it until after you have entered, rather than conspicuously at the entrances where you can see it before entering, then you break no law by entering because the sign is not conspicuously posted at the entrance. HOWEVER, once you have entered and you then see the sign, you are required to leave right then and disarm before reentering.... ....if you wish to reenter.

Here is the law, from the DPS website:
PROHIBITING HANDGUNS IN A BUSINESS OR OTHER ENTITY
In order to provide notice that entry on property by a license holder with a concealed handgun is forbidden, Penal Code Section 30.06(c)(3)(A) requires that a written communication contain the following language:

"PURSUANT TO SECTION 30.06, PENAL CODE (TRESPASS BY HOLDER OF A LICENSE TO CARRY A CONCEALED HANDGUN) A PERSON LICENSED UNDER SUBCHAPTER H, CHAPTER 411, GOVERNMENT CODE (CONCEALED HANDGUN LAW), MAY NOT ENTER THIS PROPERTY WITH A CONCEALED HANDGUN."
"CONFORME A LA SECCIÓN 30.06 DEL CÔDIGO PENAL (TRASPASAR PORTANDO ARMAS DE FUEGO) PERSONAS CON LICENCIA BAJO DEL SUB-CAPITULO H, CAPITULO 411, CODIGO DE GOBIERNO (LEY DE PORTAR ARMAS), NO DEBEN ENTRAR A ESTA PROPIEDAD PORTANDO UN ARMA DE FUEGO."

Download language

Penal Code Section 30.06(c)(3)(B) further states that a sign must meet the following requirements:
  • i. includes the language described by Paragraph (A) in both English and Spanish;
    ii. appears in contrasting colors with block letters at least one inch in height; and
    iii. is displayed in a conspicuous manner clearly visible to the public.
Please note that while the language provided above may be downloaded for convenience, it does not meet the requirements of Section 30.06(c)(3)(B) and may not be used as a sign.
So my advice would be as follows: Go ahead and carry into your credit union, past the invalid sign at the door. But keep a sharp eye peeled for a valid 30.06 sign. If you don't see one, then carry on. And if you don't see one, whatever you do, don't tell anybody you're looking for a 30.06 sign, and DON'T ask any bank employees if they have one posted somewhere. If you do see one, then leave and secure your weapon before returning.

OTH, concealed is concealed..... just sayin'.... :mrgreen:
by The Annoyed Man
Thu Jul 29, 2010 3:39 pm
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Newbie...Question concerning credit union...
Replies: 21
Views: 1665

Re: Newbie...Question concerning credit union...

My bank, which is a community bank with its roots in credit unions, has a "gunbusters" sign on the door. I pay it no mind at all.

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