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lunchbox wrote:

Kirk wrote:

gigag04 wrote:What's a grip safety?

-Glock Shooter

On the back of the grip there is a spring loaded "bar" that must be compress.

I tried to link a picture but no luck, sorry.

thats what i mean my broken Xd is as safe as a glock

No, it isn't. Your XD was designed to use a grip safety. It has a broken part running around in there somewhere, and its overall safety has been compromised. You're trying to compare apples to oranges. That would be like saying that my cocked 1911 is as safe as a Glock, after I removed the grip and thumb safeties. That's just not true. Different designs. Different safety systems.

G.A. Heath wrote:The incident that apostate refers to is actually the result of poor equipment design (Holster) and an inability to follow the four rules. The real issue I have with carrying a firearm that has broken, and been rendered serviceable with southern engineering, is more complex. Firearms contain many small and precisely made/fitted parts, broken parts tend to be smaller than the parts they come from and get into places where Mr. Murphy can better use them against the shooter when they need the weapon to work. Broken parts can also be an indicator of other, even more serious, issues that should be corrected immediately. Moving on from there disabling the grip safety configures most XD handguns (and all XDm versions) so that they have precisely the same safety features as a Glock, or similar firearms, which are perfectly safe when handled properly. Now some .45ACP XD pistols also feature a thumb safety giving the user an additional level of protection. My advice is to contact Springfield and have the gun fixed properly.

"Southern Engineering!" Well stated, Mr. Heath.

lunchbox wrote:do I call the regular customer service line or some other repair line??

Call the customer service number on their website, and tell them that you need a warranty repair. They will make sure you speak to the right person.

Go to http://www.springfield-armory.com/contactus.php, and use the phone number listed there.

lunchbox wrote:as far as the inside goes it apears the end of the safety that goes into the firing mechanism broke off and is no longer there at all.
guess i will break out the XDm

That's what I would recommend....and do send the XCsc back to SA for repairs.

BrianSW99 wrote:

lunchbox wrote:ok so im a bit of a procrastinator. I have not sent my Xd back to sa. anyhow i put some electrical tape on the grip to keep the safety flush since its not working anyhow. basically i now have a glock right? is there any reason I should send it back? I am kinda liking the electrical tape grip its got a nice feel to it.

I don't think I'd feel comfortable carrying a gun that was known to be broken. I don't know how the XD grip safety works internally, but I could imagine a situation where a loose spring or piece of a spring gets into the wrong place and causes other, more serious problems.

Brian

Rule of thumb.... NEVER "bubba" a carry weapon. That said, a number of Texas Rangers back in the day used to wrap a piece of wet leather around their 1911 grips so that when the the leather shrank, it would keep the grip safety permanently depressed. (They would sometimes also have a gunsmith remove the trigger guard, relying only on the thumb safety to keep the cocked weapon from discharging. As I recall, your XD doesn't have a thumb safety.) After a lot of these old boys had retired, some of them still liked to show up for their annual pistol requalifications, even though it was no longer necessary. One of them showed up with one such modified 1911 and the young RSO wouldn't let him use it to qualify with, asking "don't you think that gun is dangerous?" ......To which the old boy responded, "Heck yes it's dangerous. I wouldn't carry it otherwise!"

Now, I'm in no way recommending you carry your XD that way. Like that old Texas Ranger said, it's dangerous. And I'm not counting on any of us to be as self assured with a firearm as any of them were.....and some of them might have been just a little bit crazy.....in a good way....but not made of the same stuff as the rest of us. In other words, I would STRONGLY recommend that you leave that gun unloaded and in the safe until such time as you can ship it back to SA for repairs. They should be covering the repairs and the freight, and you'll find that their customer service is very responsive.

gigag04 wrote:What's a grip safety?

-Glock Shooter

It's a device which prevents Glock-Leg.