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cb1000rider wrote:

The Annoyed Man wrote: Actually, there IS a way. . . . . .but no rational person would choose it as the first resort. It's called the 2nd Amendment. When it is time to lose it, it is time to use it. But democrats, not being able to play their folly forward to see where it leads, are not rational and do not make rational decisions. So we may end up having that last resort forced upon us.

That's how we got here.. Democratic irrationality... You're 50% right.

The 2nd amendment is already lost. It was designed to be uninfringed, but we've got states and municipalities where firearm possession is illegal.. How it's still considered valid, I dunno.

We've got a government of professional politicians who are demographically and financially elite. There is so much partisanship that sides are being driven to more and more radical steps, resulting in further un-balance. We can't get approval of basic appointments, often not because there is disagreement of the appointment itself, but because that agreement is being held for ransom for some other piece of the political pie. The problems originate from both sides of the political spectrum, not just one, and are exacerbated by law makers who are set for life.

We've never seen so much gridlock...

You're right, in that the republican party is partly to blame....Lord knows....but I think that democrats have done far more damage to the Constitution over the years than republicans have. The biggest republican blunder: the Dept of Homeland Kabuki.

But the 2nd Amendment isn't dead. Infringed upon....yes. But dead, no. I don't own "black rifles" because I'm enamored of the type. I own them because they are militia rifles, first and foremost. Yes, I shoot them for fun. Yes, I dress them up like Barbie Dolls. But that's not why I own them. I already have accurate hunting rifles and shotguns. I already have pistols for self defense/concealed carry. I already have a pump action shotgun for things that go bump in the night. But I own AR type rifles (and M1As, etc.) because they are militia rifles. . . .because I am a member of the unorganized militia (10 USC § 311 - Militia: composition and classes). I don't advocate for going to war against my government, but that is the reason we have a 2nd Amendment, and I am prepared for the possibility that my government might go to war against me.

That those states and municipalities behave unconstitutionally does not make the Constitution invalid. What it does is make the politicians who passed those laws traitors and criminals. They will have their reckoning some day.

mamabearCali wrote:Once power is taken from the people it is not easily recovered.

Also if they can change this rule for the lower courts, there is nothing stopping them from changing it for the Supreme Court and other legislation. Imagine having to only get a majority to rule that all firearms must be turned in by X date, no exceptions. That could be now possible with just another "rule change". Horrifying.

Actually, there IS a way. . . . . .but no rational person would choose it as the first resort. It's called the 2nd Amendment. When it is time to lose it, it is time to use it. But democrats, not being able to play their folly forward to see where it leads, are not rational and do not make rational decisions. So we may end up having that last resort forced upon us.