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remington79 wrote:I can use a Glock or a 1911 style/shaped grip with no issues. One thing I have noticed though is if you use a Weaver stance your grip is more vertical like a 1911. If you switch to isosceles or modified isosceles your grip is more angled and is closer to the Glock's grip angle.

Good catch. I hadn't noticed that, primarily because I'm an chronic Weaver guy.....now primarily because it works better with my bad back, but in the old days because it just seemed natural having come from a martial arts background. I always fought/sparred from an angled stance rather than a squared up stance; so when I got into shooting, it just seemed natural for me to do that. Old habits die hard, even if there were no pain.

KHickam wrote:Not sure if it is just me but - is there something about the Glock grip that affects my sight alignment - A friend and I were shooting - I have M&P and Beretta M9 and he had a Glock 19 - Gen 3 - Anyway I told him I could not shoot them because I had to re-adjust my grip to see the sights well - when I punch out instinctively with the gun the front sight is not aligned with the rear sight - I have to break my wrist down to align the sights

Am I just different?

You're not different, Glocks are different.

The grip angles on the M&P, Beretta, XDM, Sig H&K, and other "service sized" pistols are all either close to or the same as the "magic number" grip angle on pistols designed by John Moses Browning, such as the 1911 or Highpower pistols. Frequently, you'll hear them compared to the grip angle on a 1911 pattern pistol.

Glocks are different. They have a more acute grip angle, which means that if you hold a Glock with your wrist at the same angle you would hold a 1911, the Glock's muzzle will be high, and the gun will shoot higher than you expected. You have to cock your wrist at a slightly downward angle from normal to compensate for this vertical offset, in order to correctly line up your sights.

Now, if you were born and raised on Glocks, their grip angle will seem completely natural, and all the others are "wrong", requiring the shooter to cock his wrist upward to compensate for the pistol aiming and shooting low.

But if you shoot both kinds of guns often enough, either grip angle will eventually seem natural, and you'll adjust your grip without thinking about it. I used to hate Glocks for that reason, and now they don't bother me at all.

Edited to add: I always wondered if guys who had battlefield pickups of German Luger pistols had trouble adjusting to the grip for the same reason. Maybe it isn't as acute an angle as it looks, but it sure looks like it to me.