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by The Annoyed Man
Sun Aug 14, 2016 1:01 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: TAA lease asking for LTC?
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Re: TAA lease asking for LTC?

Soccerdad1995 wrote:
txyaloo wrote:
TexasJohnBoy wrote:A friend of mine at work currently rents an apartment, and he's up to renew. He told me this morning that he noticed a new sheet in the TAA lease asking for a copy of your LTC if you've got one. This seems mighty odd to me, and I haven't seen the paperwork yet.

But, it made me wonder, what are the ramifications of this? Can you be denied a lease because you hold an LTC and therefore have guns in your home (albeit, rented home)? Can you say noneya and then be evicted if they ever find out you have one?

I told him if it were me I would tell them NONEYA! But that's me, and he doesn't currently have an LTC. I also thought that since your appartment is your home, a landlord can't tell you no guns - but they can restrict open carry on the premises. I also know the topic of 30.06 has been discussed on whether or not it's valid for the rest of the complex besides your unit.
Why wouldn't they be able to say no guns? A person leasing an apartment is entering into a contract. If they don't agree with the terms of the contract, they could find a place to live with more agreeable terms. Gun owners aren't protected classes. It's not discrimination to choose not to lease to gun owners.
Because its none of their business. Then again I also disagree with behavior codes in leases like when you renting to a single person and telling them that they cannot have opposite sex visitors in their home after dark, or can't get tattoos, or have alcohol in the apartment, etc.

Others may disagree with me on the proper balance between property ownership rights and personal freedom.
My only quibble with your standard would be when the rental in question is a room inside the landlord's home. When I was a student at A&M, I rented a single bedroom on a month-to-month basis in a private home off campus - which shared a connecting bathroom with a second bedroom which my landlady also rented out to students. She made clear what her standards were when she rented out those rooms to students, and they were pretty much the same "my house, my rules" kind of rules that most rational people would insist on being followed inside their homes.

That is clearly a different situation from the commercial renting/leasing of apartments, where each unit is a discreet residence in which all rooms of that residence are under the control of the lessee, and over which the landlord gives up certain rights as long as the rent is current, and as long as the lessee's actions are not abridging the rights of other tenants.

Where I have questions and am unclear as to the restrictions in the law, and would appreciate Charles Cotton's take on this, is this........ If the common areas of an apartment building — i.e. laundry room, patio/pool, parking areas, etc. — are posted 30.06, (a) does a tenant who is license holder have carry rights in those common areas, since access to those areas comes along with his/her tenancy in an apartment there, and they are in some limited way under the tenant's control while using them, and (b) if (a) is in the affirmative, can a tenant then give permission to a friend/family member to carry past those signs, since he/she has "control/access" over/to those areas?

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