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by The Annoyed Man
Sat Nov 25, 2017 11:27 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Now this is the reason why I carry
Replies: 91
Views: 23113

Re: Now this is the reason why I carry

alittlejoy1960 wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote: My wife is not a ditz. Those members who’ve met her would agree that she is a bright and engaged person. But this is one area that she just refuses to be disciplined about, and to be honest, I sometimes wonder if it isn’t just because she’s being deliberately mule-headed about it. I don’t know. What I do know is that it’s not a battle I can win, so this isn’t one of those hills I want to stake our relationship on.

I just wish she were more focused and serious about it.
My husband would probably also say that I can be deliberately mule-headed. He would be right. Until I had a close encounter of the most unwelcome kind, I WAS being mule-headed. I don't like to be told what to do... even though I know that he only has my best interest and safety in mind. But that night changed my mindset.
I’m sure it did, and I’m sure it would probably change my wife’s as well.....she’s not a dummy. But nobody would wish that kind of experience on anyone - let alone someone they loved. So I’m grateful that it hasn’t happened yet, and I pray that it never does.

It would be nice though if she were to come to that conclusion on her own, without having to have that kind of experience.
by The Annoyed Man
Fri Nov 24, 2017 11:03 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Now this is the reason why I carry
Replies: 91
Views: 23113

Re: Now this is the reason why I carry

alittlejoy1960 wrote:
srothstein wrote:Since Alittlejoy1960 mentioned she has a concealed carry purse, she might be able to clarify this a little. But I think something like this would be a step up from just dropping a pistol into the regular purse and then trying to find it again. And very few wives will argue with a husband suggesting they get a new purse or two. That might be a point in its favor all on its own.
I do have a couple of concealed carry purses. The first one I got was quite small on the inside. The conceal carry pocket was adequate for my Ruger LCR 38. But the rest of the purse wasn't large enough for everything else that I have become accustomed to carrying. I stopped carrying it after a short time. Much later... 3 or 4 years, I purchased another purse that was much larger on the inside. I carry that one exclusively now. The brand is Roma and I ordered it online. One thing that I like about carrying a dedicated concealed carry purse is that the zippers on each end of the concealed carry compartment locks. That way, whenever I know I'm going to be somewhere with children, I can lock my pocket with worry that nosy little fingers will find my firearm. There is no fumbling around inside feeling for my firearm.
The Annoyed Man wrote:We’ll be heading over to my son’s inlaws’ house this afternoon for a big family Thanksgiving dinner. This morning, as I was getting out of bed, she told me she was removing her gun from her purse because she said that she wasn’t comfortable leaving her purse laying around there with all the little kids that will be running around that house.
The Annoyed Man - You may try suggesting to your wife getting a concealed carry purse so that the carry compartment can be locked. That should put her mind at ease about leaving her pistol in her purse with children running around.

The website is http://www.romagunbags.com/ and the model number of mine is 7008. They have several different styles from which to choose. (Disclaimer: I have no interest in romagunbags other than really liking the purse that I carry. ;-) )
She has three concealed carry purses, two of which I bought her. She uses them about half the time. She also has a REALLY nice kydex appendix carry IWB holster my son made her. I at least convinced her to keep the gun in that holster when she doesn’t use a concealed carry purse, so that she doesn’t get a pen or a lipstick stuck in the trigger and have a bad day.

My wife is not a ditz. Those members who’ve met her would agree that she is a bright and engaged person. But this is one area that she just refuses to be disciplined about, and to be honest, I sometimes wonder if it isn’t just because she’s being deliberately mule-headed about it. I don’t know. What I do know is that it’s not a battle I can win, so this isn’t one of those hills I want to stake our relationship on.

I just wish she were more focused and serious about it.
by The Annoyed Man
Thu Nov 23, 2017 6:47 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Now this is the reason why I carry
Replies: 91
Views: 23113

Re: Now this is the reason why I carry

alittlejoy1960 wrote:First time poster here. I've read, or rather my husband - oljames3 has pointed out as he so often does many posts on here that interest me. I think he does that to "strongly encourage" me to start carrying on my body. And I thought it was us wives who did most of the nagging. :biggrinjester:

This is the first time that I have felt compelled to respond.

I had a situation that made me want to change the way I carry. I normally carry in my conceal carry purse, if I carry at all. The night I'm about to tell you about, I wasn't carrying at all. I was frustrated with 'Mr. aliitlejoy1960' and decided that I needed to walk it off. We live on a corner. I walked outside and was approaching the corner when I noticed the silhouette of someone walking in my direction coming up the street. (Thank goodness for situational awareness.) I crossed the street and the silhouette of a man also crossed the street. At that point the hairs on the back of my neck that had already started standing up when I saw him were at full attention. I kept thinking why the heck didn't I bring my phone or my pistol. I crossed back and started towards my front porch. When I got to the porch, the man stopped and was just standing there watching me. Now, I know that I didn't know the intention of that man. But I did know that I didn't want to find out either. I went back into the house and went to the bedroom to calm down. After, I told my husband about the incident. That silhouette was the last thing I thought about that night before going to sleep and the first thing I thought of when I woke the next morning. It had affected me more than I thought. Since then, we have been talking about better ways for me to carry - and all are on my body. We even bought me a different pistol to carry. We went to a gun range that allowed me to try several different pistols. My problem has been being able to manipulate the slide. I found one that I could easily manipulate and feels right in my hands - a Walther PPS M2. The next day, I bought that pistol.

My next step is to find a way for me to carry comfortably on my body. I have a rather large top, small waist, and large bottom. Most of the videos of women I see carrying are mostly straight with no defined waist. A lot of the methods in which women carry don't work for me. I'm still searching for what will work best for me... and I won't stop until I find one.
SewTexas wrote:
alittlejoy1960 wrote:

My next step is to find a way for me to carry comfortably on my body. I have a rather large top, small waist, and large bottom. Most of the videos of women I see carrying are mostly straight with no defined waist. A lot of the methods in which women carry don't work for me. I'm still searching for what will work best for me... and I won't stop until I find one.
Welcome Alittlejoy1960, I carry a Curve or an LCP pretty much all the time, seldom in my purse. With Jeans I use an IWB hoster from Kusiak for my LCP. With leggings I took a corset from WM, added some elastic and ended up with a corset holster along the lines of Dene Adams. For dresses and skirts I took some compression undershorts from WM along with some clearance compression under stuffs, added some pockets on the legs and at the waist and they are perfect.
Thank you both for responding. It’s always refreshing to get the women’s perspective when this subject comes up. In the case of my wife, she currently owns 3 pistols - a Glock 19, a Glock 43, and a S&W 642 .38 (she owns an AR15 carbine too, but that’s outside the scope of this discussion). The .38 was her first gun, a Valentines Day gift from me. She carried it for a short time, but she didn’t like shooting it much because of the trigger pull effort. She purchased the G19 the day after she took her first CHL class, because she shot one when she took the NRA Basic Handgun class, and liked it enough to rent one for her CHL range qualification. She shoots it just fine, but it just doesn’t work for her as a carry weapon because of its size and weight. (Of course, if she belt-carried it, she wouldn’t notice the size and weight as much, but she has so far refused to belt-carry.) For a while, she carried a Kahr CW9, which was fine as far as size, but when the G43 came out, we sold the CW9 and bought her the G43 because it was - other than being narrower - ergonomically similar to her G19, and maybe just a tad smaller than the CW9. She likes the G43 just fine, and shoots it reasonably well, but she just basically refuses to carry any other way but her purse.

A few years ago, she had me buy her two belly band holsters and one pistol-wear under arm holster from The Well Armed Woman. She tried them out, and says that she likes them......but she rarely ever uses any of them. The only time she does, is when something has scared her, and she reverts to on-body carry for a day or two. But, usually within 48 hours, she’s right back to purse carry. I have a theory.... my wife is a “Proverbs 31 Woman”, and she is never still unless she is just conked out. She is always in motion. I think that often, she is so focused on whatever is her next task, that she rushes through the current one. When the current task is “getting dressed to go out”, she just finds it easier to throw the gun into her purse, than it is to slow down, and take the time to get the holster on and the gun comfortably positioned. At least that’s my theory.

She’s been this way as long as I’ve known her, and when she came to Christ at my side (we both answered the same alter call, neither of us aware that the other one was....eyes closed, heads down kind of thing), the kingdom gained a mighty prayer warrior. She is a gift to me. But if she has a fly in her ointment, it is her habit of rushing from task to task, without sometimes allowing herself to slow down, pause, assess, and focus on certain things. I think that how she carries her gun is one of those daily things that she just doesn’t spend much time on, and I learned 30 years ago when we first got married that browbeating her about anything isn’t going to get either of us very far.

I am the head of my household, but I listen to her wisdom before I make any decisions for our family. About half the time, the decision is to do whatever she advises, because it’s the right thing to do for that situation. For instance, I never send off a stern email to a disappointing service-provider without first reading it to her over and over as I compose it, to make sure that it has the right tone so that I don’t scorch the earth. But I’m the one who decides the email needs writing, and then executes it. But sometimes, it just doesn’t seem to matter what I say, she’s going to do what she’s going to do. It’s not defiance so much as I think she sees some things as not really needing my input.....like what kind of underwear she buys herself, or how she wants to wear her hair, for instance. It turns out, it seems, that how she chooses to carry is one of those things too.

It’s not a fight I can win.....and it’s not really a “fight” anyway. It’s just that she doesn’t attach the same importance to it as do I. Alittlejoy1960 (Welcome to the forum, by the way), I think you’re right...... my wife is going to have to have the kind of experiences you had before she takes on-body carry seriously enough to make it her habit. It is my prayer that the Lord keep her and protect her until then, and beyond.
by The Annoyed Man
Thu Nov 23, 2017 11:19 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Now this is the reason why I carry
Replies: 91
Views: 23113

Re: Now this is the reason why I carry

gamboolman wrote:And when Ms. gamboolgal has to dig around in her purse for her pistol.....it is more like the 121 foot drill :mad5
When you win that fight, let me know! :lol: The Annoyed Woman and I have been doing ‘round and ‘round about that for 8 years now, ever since she first got her license. She absolutely agrees every time that she shouldn’t carry in her purse, and promises that she’ll start carrying on her body. Every single time, I challenge her (diplomatically) about how quickly she would be able to (A) find, and (B) deploy her gun, if she found herself in that situation. Every single time, she tries to show me that she can get to it quickly and safely......and fails. Then she promises (again) to start carrying on body.

I’ve shown her videos of Tueller drills and discussed it with her. Whenever a member of this forum posts an experience of theirs here like the OP’s in this thread, I read it to her. She absolutely agrees that she would be in real trouble in situations like these if it were to happen to her. I read her these stories because I think she exists in a world of denial where things like this always happen to someone else, but can never happen to her. She agrees that she tends to deliberately ignore the possibilities......most of the time. But once in a while, she’ll tell me about how she was crossing a Walmart parking lot or someplace like it, and she either saw something suspicious, or began to game a scenario out in her head, she wonders how quickly she’d be able to get to her gun if she needed it. I remind her that one single change of habit would fix the problem, and she acknowledges that I’m right about it.

We’ll be heading over to my son’s inlaws’ house this afternoon for a big family Thanksgiving dinner. This morning, as I was getting out of bed, she told me she was removing her gun from her purse because she said that she wasn’t comfortable leaving her purse laying around there with all the little kids that will be running around that house. Again..... if she carried on body, this would not be an issue. It’s a Glock 43. It’s not like she’s trying to conceal a 6” Model 29. When she made her announcement this morning, I kept my mouth shut this time. It’s not a hill I’m willing to die on during Thanksgiving. It’s rapidly becoming a hill I’m no longer willing to assault at all.

Events such as the one that happened to the OP scare the bejabbers out of me when I contemplate the possibility of my wife being in the same position as the young woman that crew was intimidating. The only thing I can do about it is to be there with her everywhere she goes, but that just isn’t practical.

I wish I knew something that would get her to change her habit, but I’ve more or less resigned myself to there being no such thing. So, I pray for her safetey every time this subject comes up in my mind.
by The Annoyed Man
Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:23 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Now this is the reason why I carry
Replies: 91
Views: 23113

Re: Now this is the reason why I carry

GreenMan0352 wrote:
Abraham wrote:"One of the men says what your gonna shoot us all."

This is the perfect time to say a Clint Eastwood line like: You'll be first!

Or if he drew he could have yelled, "merry Christmas Charlie Brown!"

They probably would have thought he was crazy and ran :lol::
I don’t why, but this made me think of that “Sweet dreams, lilac!” line from the movie “Mystery Men” :lol: ......

https://youtu.be/nZHe6OXaT8c

To the OP.... well done. I can’t think of anything I’d have done different, except (because I’m old and slow), when the pipe came out, so would my gun. I’m not going to wait for a rush forward to begin. As far as I am concerned....and I believe as far as the law is concerned, the assault began when the pipe came out. I think you showed greater restraint than I would have in terms of language, because once he said “you’re going to have to shoot all of us”, the temptation to say something in reply like “fine with me, you’ll be first......who wants to be 2nd?” would have been almost overpowering. All of that would have been intended to distract attention from the slowly spreading pee stain in my pants. So well done, sir.

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