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SewTexas wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 2:50 pm soooo, all of her shirts are tucked? wow, that's highly unusual for a woman today. Nothing against your lady's style choices, I'm very pro- personal style choices, just sort of pondering "out loud" I have a clip on style holster that I love, but I don't think they make it so that you can tuck in also. hmmmm

I assume you were asking me.... no, actually she wears her shirts untucked most of the time, it’s just that her shirts are fairly form-fitting (is that the right fashion term?) and too narrow waisted to be useful for concealed carry. Add that to the fact that she almost never wears a belt because most of her pants lack belt loops; so there’s nothing there to support the weight of a gun even if she were so inclined. In any case, I conceded a long time ago that her choices are hers, and I can’t win that argument - even though I know I am right from both a tactical and a gun safety point of view. Harmony in my home is more important to me than "winning".

Soccerdad1995 wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 11:55 am I agree with you completely, and didn't mean to imply otherwise. My point was that it will be well nigh impossible to completely close that gap, especially if a woman likes to wear tight fitting clothing that seems to be very popular nowadays.

This isn’t just a female issue. I can recall several threads posted over the years, on this forum, by young men who were new to carry, and wanted members to help them figure out how to carry concealed without giving up their skinny jeans and little brother's tight fitting shirts. I’ve had identical face to face conversations with young men at my church, who came to me for similar advice. My answer both here and in person has always been this: Bottom line for both genders (there are only two) is that if you place a higher value on being fashionable than on being armed, and you’re unwilling to make compromises to attain it, then you’ll never find a way to be adequately armed. Period.

My wife has had her carry license since early 2009. Until very recently, she owned no jeans that had belt loops, and steadfastly ignored giving even the slightest amount of thought to including belt loops on any pants that she buys. Consequently, she never wore any of the holsters I bought for her for any of her three handguns. And because she never bought pants that would accommodate a gun belt, she also never bought any blouses that would accommodate un-tucked concealed carry. (She’s not an open carrier at all.) she only briefly flirted with carrying in some kind of belly band holster, but studiously ignored making that into a habit too. So in the end, she’s made a by-default decision to carry a gun in her purse. Thank God that at least most of the time, that purse has a CCW feature in its design. Otherwise, we’ve been married a little over 30 years now, and I know when I’m licked. I don’t bring it up anymore.

She can and does do whatever she wants....which may end up getting me killed some day because she’s unwilling to make any fashion compromises, and I’ll have to cover for the deficiencies in her choice of carry method by rushing to place myself between her and harm. I just pray that she doesn’t accidentally shoot herself in the foot - or me in the back - while fumbling for her pistol in her purse.

I DO love her very much, but there’s only so much you can do to get someone to place the same importance on something that you consider important.