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by Charles L. Cotton
Tue Feb 27, 2018 12:40 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Can it be?: We may lose more gun rights under Trump than Obama?
Replies: 115
Views: 34492

Re: Can it be?: We may lose more gun rights under Trump than Obama?

jerry_r60 wrote:There is a larger "war", there is an upcoming election where we could lose seats. Bump stocks is like a fighter jet dumping chafe to divert a missile and buy time.
This is an excellent analogy and you are spot-on about the 2018 mid-term elections.

The 2018 elections are probably the most important mid-term elections in decades. Republicans only hold a one vote margin in the Senate. If the Democrats take control, then there's no chance Trump will be able to appoint conservative judges to fill two and possibly three Supreme Court vacancies before the 2020 Presidential election. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the Democrats want to lose the AR-15 battle so they can use it as a battle cry in November.

Chas.
by Charles L. Cotton
Tue Feb 27, 2018 12:14 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Can it be?: We may lose more gun rights under Trump than Obama?
Replies: 115
Views: 34492

Re: Can it be?: We may lose more gun rights under Trump than Obama?

K.Mooneyham wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
RicoTX wrote:
Richbirdhunter wrote:Once you give a dog a bone, he wants another bone.
Agree 100%!

Why give up anything. What's next? 20 or 30 round mags?
Are some of us willing to give those up too?
Because I'm not...and won't.
I'm so sick of buzz phrases. No one is "giving up" anything, but the reality is we could well see bump-stocks "taken away" because the votes are probably there. Wake up people and see what's happening!!!! Bloomberg and Hollywood are pouring money into this effort and the media is helping to the fullest extent. We've never had this level of opposition before, not ever. It's a campaign of lies and distortion, but it's very well funded and they are playing on the sympathy factor of kids getting killed.

If you really want to make a difference, then start recruiting NRA members every single day. The NRA better be 15 million strong soon, or this is only going to get worse.

Chas.
Mr. Cotton, I really don't care much about bumpfire stocks. However, I am in the group who worries that they will use that term as a giant umbrella to stop simple modifications like match triggers, or even a different shaped trigger than the one the manufacturer installed at the factory. Besides joining pro-2A organizations such as the NRA, what specifically can we do as individuals to make sure that, if bumpfire stocks are banned, that it's limited in scope to those exact items, and those exact items only?
I seriously doubt the phrase "bump stock" will be used in any legislation, but if it is, it will be defined. The focus is on devices that can be applied to a semi-automatic rifle that will allow it to simulate a full-auto rifle, not better triggers for trigger jobs that improve accuracy. Certainly we must be ever watchful concerning any proposed legislation.

As to what people can do, there's only two things at this point. The most important is recruiting massive number of new NRA members! I cannot overstate this need. The power of the NRA is in the number of voters we can send to the polls. This is how we always defeat the Bloomberg/Soros/Hollywood money factory. The second thing we can do is call and write your Congressman and Senators and let them know you do not support gun control legislation, other than HR 38 (Fix NICS/National Reciprocity). The Parkland shooting was not the fault of the NRA or our 5+ million members. It was the fault of 1) the murderer; 2) the FBI; 3) cowardly Broward County Deputies, and 4) Broward County Sheriff Isreal.

Chas.
by Charles L. Cotton
Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:54 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Can it be?: We may lose more gun rights under Trump than Obama?
Replies: 115
Views: 34492

Re: Can it be?: We may lose more gun rights under Trump than Obama?

RicoTX wrote:
Richbirdhunter wrote:Once you give a dog a bone, he wants another bone.
Agree 100%!

Why give up anything. What's next? 20 or 30 round mags?
Are some of us willing to give those up too?
Because I'm not...and won't.
I'm so sick of buzz phrases. No one is "giving up" anything, but the reality is we could well see bump-stocks "taken away" because the votes are probably there. Wake up people and see what's happening!!!! Bloomberg and Hollywood are pouring money into this effort and the media is helping to the fullest extent. We've never had this level of opposition before, not ever. It's a campaign of lies and distortion, but it's very well funded and they are playing on the sympathy factor of kids getting killed.

If you really want to make a difference, then start recruiting NRA members every single day. The NRA better be 15 million strong soon, or this is only going to get worse.

Chas.
by Charles L. Cotton
Mon Feb 26, 2018 7:02 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Can it be?: We may lose more gun rights under Trump than Obama?
Replies: 115
Views: 34492

Re: Can it be?: We may lose more gun rights under Trump than Obama?

Soccerdad1995 wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:Let me think about this for a moment. Is there any gun-related issue to hand our hat on that is worse than bump-stocks? That didn't take long . . . no, there nothing worse. Before getting to upset or casting too large a stone, take a few minutes to learn what is going on in Washington.

Chas.
If I thought for one second that giving up our right to own bump stocks would derail or even slow down the antis, then I might be willing to support a limited restriction. But I fear that a victory for the gun grabbers on this front will only encourage them to press harder toward the fulfillment of their ultimate goal.

I am also weary of "scope creep" on any bump stock legislation. The ban on sale / manufacture of bump stocks is one thing. Making it retroactive (i.e. confiscation) and expanding the definition to "any device that increases the rate of fire" is something else entirely. What happens when people realize that common everyday items can be used to facilitate bump firing, and the only way to stop the practice is to ban semi-auto firearms entirely?
It's not a slippery slope issue. It's not a mission-creep issue. Tell me how to convince Americans who don't own a gun why we "need" bump-stocks or crank-type triggers that simulate machine guns. Don't bother with telling me that "need" isn't an issue with constitutional rights. I know that, but a big segment of the general public doesn't and those that do don't care. I've talked to a lot of gun owners who are furious at the manufacturers of bump-stocks and trigger device manufacturers for giving anti-gunners an issue to fly like a battle flag.

There's a lot bigger war going on now and bump-stocks aren't even on the radar. Attacking Trump, Republicans and NRA helps the enemy.

Chas.
by Charles L. Cotton
Mon Feb 26, 2018 6:02 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Can it be?: We may lose more gun rights under Trump than Obama?
Replies: 115
Views: 34492

Re: Can it be?: We may lose more gun rights under Trump than Obama?

Let me think about this for a moment. Is there any gun-related issue to hang our hat on that is worse than bump-stocks? That didn't take long . . . no, there nothing worse. Before getting to upset or casting too large a stone, take a few minutes to learn what is going on in Washington.

Chas.

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