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longtooth wrote:Flint my friend,
Guns are different than cattle.

After all the work I did to keep my 45 away from my son's CZ75b, now he tells me! I really did NOT want to see the offspring of that mating.

You might want to add the Smith and Wesson M&P 9mm to research list. A LOT of people active in IDPA are switching to this line.