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by jmorris
Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:06 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Anyone Seen a 3005 Sign?
Replies: 123
Views: 234330

Re: Anyone Seen a 3005 Sign?

ScottDLS wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 9:42 pm
snapcap45 wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 9:03 pm The HEB I shop at on Research Blvd in Northwest Austin used to have 30.07 signs on their two front doors. A couple days after Constitutional Carry started they updated the signs on their doors to the new 30.05 unlicensed carry signs.
Did they keep the 30.07? If not you could theoretically open carry in there with a license though I'm pretty sure they'd verbally notify you not to.
Ours in Schertz still has the 30.07 with the English/Spanish versions split between the two doors, at the bottom. The 30.05 is at the top of the left door, and is larger. It's also in black letters while everything else is white which makes it more noticeable to me.
by jmorris
Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:03 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Anyone Seen a 3005 Sign?
Replies: 123
Views: 234330

Re: Anyone Seen a 3005 Sign?

dlh wrote: Sat Sep 11, 2021 11:56 am My local HEB put up a 30.05 sign. Disappointed.
They're 07 posted. They don't want open carry. 05 is only way for unlicensed.
by jmorris
Thu Sep 09, 2021 7:30 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Anyone Seen a 3005 Sign?
Replies: 123
Views: 234330

Re: Anyone Seen a 3005 Sign?

chasfm11 wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 1:14 pm Just saw a Facebook post from Shannon Watts crowing that HEB had put up signs "prohibiting permit-less carry" in Texas. There was no evidence of the actual sign provided. Now I'm curious if it IS a 30.05 sign. Anyone?
Yes, saw one today. Correct wording and size. Larger than necessary actually. It's black letters though. 30.07 is white.
by jmorris
Wed Sep 08, 2021 2:40 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Anyone Seen a 3005 Sign?
Replies: 123
Views: 234330

Re: Anyone Seen a 3005 Sign?

Grayling813 wrote: Wed Sep 08, 2021 9:07 am
K.Mooneyham wrote: Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:51 am
ScottDLS wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:38 pm
Tex1961 wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:57 pm
tomneal wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:37 pm Dumb question but...

What about all the TABC Signs? Going into the local 7-11, that sells beer, it says that it's a felony to carry unlicensed
Do those signs need to come down?

What about the 51% signs?
TABC blue are no longer valid, only 51% now. 30.05 and gun buster signs are valid for unlicensed carry only. LTC still adhere to 51%, 30.06 and 30.07
What is a "gun buster" sign and what part of the Texas Penal Code makes it applicable to permitless carry in a location open to the public?
Yes, I am curious about that, as well. Seems like the law defines what the new sign should have on it, or "substantially similar", right?
:iagree: My understanding was that the new laws required a 30.05 sign to prohibit unlicensed carry.
SECTIONA17.Section 30.05, Penal Code, is amended by adding
Subsections (c) and (d-3) and amending Subsections (d) and (f) to
read as follows:
(c)A person may provide notice that firearms are prohibited
on the property by posting a sign at each entrance to the property
that:
(1)includes language that is identical to or
substantially similar to the following: "Pursuant to Section 30.05,
Penal Code (criminal trespass), a person may not enter this
property with a firearm";
(2)includes the language described by Subdivision (1)
in both English and Spanish;
(3)appears in contrasting colors with block letters
at least one inch in height; and
(4)is displayed in a conspicuous manner clearly
visible to the public.
Some have taken "substantially similar" to include even gun buster sign. See the recently posted [pre-paid legal service] link. I don't have it handy.

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