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by Oldgringo
Sun Mar 22, 2009 5:59 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: How much authority do Security Guards have?
Replies: 58
Views: 7006

Re: How much authority do Security Guards have?

Doug.38PR wrote:This 65 year old gentleman and his wife are currently seeking another church. They have been members of this one for about 12 years.
I have seen and heard from friends who are on staff at this church of other equally absurd treatment of people behind the scenes. Megachurches being what they are, they are not the body of christ and they are not the Kingdom of Heaven's court. They are "seeker churches" that only care about bringing in numbers. (which in my view are just entertainment centers to give emotional people emotional experiences devoid of any depth or understanding who the King of Kings is)

BTW, DeadEye1964, no it's not the church you are thinking of. This church as no 30.06 posting. But it does have a private school on campus which is kind of a gray area in the law (I've ask whether or not carrying to church here would be legal and never got a clear answer because nobody was really sure...even my CHL instructor from renewal course a few months ago admitted he didn't know).

The guards at this church are real, most of them have uniforms and are armed. The one I refer to in this post was, according to a witness next to the 65 year old individual, the "head of security" and was in plain clothes. Some of these guards are actually off duty cops.

This event was "investigated" by somebody on staff (after an inquiry as to where the "investigation" went after 2 weeks). In a nutshell, the investigating staff memberl took third and fourth hand information at face value (the complaint that he was bothering people) and accepted the way the security head handled it and came back and told the 65 year old man "well security said you were bothering people."

Having said all I have said here, some of you are wondering why I still go to this church....well...I ask myself that all the time. The ONLY reason I go there, is because they have a large singles department, I have friends there. The singles department I've found over the years is little more than a meet/meat market but there are still plenty of good folks that have a true desire to find a lifemate and make friends. And even that barely keeps me there. Today just coming back from chuch I've even had thoughts of skipping their flock-that-rocks service (contemporary thing that most people my age go to) and just going to Sunday school and lunch afterwards and join friends for events during the week. Plus, there is no point in my finding another church since I'm going to be moving to Louisiana before the year is out (hopefully)

As for resisting the head security guard for grabbing me, that is a hypothetical situation that I would LIKE to happen considering how ticked :mad5 I am about what happened to this 65 year old individual. But if I were ever approached it probably wouldn't come to that.
There are worse things than being married. Good luck and God Bless with your future decisions.
by Oldgringo
Sat Mar 21, 2009 3:17 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: How much authority do Security Guards have?
Replies: 58
Views: 7006

Re: How much authority do Security Guards have?

OTOH, you and the 65 year old guy have full authority to find and attend another church. I wouldn't put up with what you described for a nanosecond. Do they shoot kids and babies?

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