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KC5AV wrote:

Oldgringo wrote:

Hoi Polloi wrote:

Oldgringo wrote:

Hoi Polloi wrote:To elaborate on what the above two posters said, carrying a firearm when functioning as a watchman is particularly problematic because watchmen fall under the Occupations Code for law enforcement and security. Any person under this code must be properly licensed in order to carry a firearm during the course of their duties. You don't even have to be paid to fall under this restriction; any organized group, like a church security detail comprised solely of volunteers, is under the same guidelines. The code says that the title assigned to you doesn't matter, either. It is just based on job purpose and description.

I believe you could get a personal protection authorization under Chapter 1702, Occupations Code, and if you are in a uniform, you could OC, or if you are in plain clothes, you could CC.

Here are links to a couple helpful areas of the law:
OCCUPATIONS CODE TITLE 10. OCCUPATIONS RELATED TO LAW ENFORCEMENT AND SECURITY
PENAL CODE TITLE 10. OFFENSES AGAINST PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, AND MORALS CHAPTER 46. WEAPONS

HOI, I don't recall these questions or this discussion in my CHL class. Were these discussions/questions included in your class and are they asked on current tests? Boy Howdy! I'm glad I took my course when I did.

I am sorry, but I'm a little too tired today to read between the lines to understand the point being made. Will you please be more direct so that I can accurately respond?

Sorry, these items weren't touched upon when Mrs. Oldgringo and I sat for our Texas CH licenses a few years ago. Thank goodness, these deep questions weren't on the test back then either.

My question is: were these type issues/questions covered and/or discussed when you attended your CHL class and are these or similar questions on the current tests? If so, the bar has definitely been raised for new applicants...I think.

These items are not covered under the current CHL curriculum. However, they have been discussed at some length on the forum.

Hoi Polloi wrote:

Oldgringo wrote:

Hoi Polloi wrote:To elaborate on what the above two posters said, carrying a firearm when functioning as a watchman is particularly problematic because watchmen fall under the Occupations Code for law enforcement and security. Any person under this code must be properly licensed in order to carry a firearm during the course of their duties. You don't even have to be paid to fall under this restriction; any organized group, like a church security detail comprised solely of volunteers, is under the same guidelines. The code says that the title assigned to you doesn't matter, either. It is just based on job purpose and description.

I believe you could get a personal protection authorization under Chapter 1702, Occupations Code, and if you are in a uniform, you could OC, or if you are in plain clothes, you could CC.

Here are links to a couple helpful areas of the law:
OCCUPATIONS CODE TITLE 10. OCCUPATIONS RELATED TO LAW ENFORCEMENT AND SECURITY
PENAL CODE TITLE 10. OFFENSES AGAINST PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, AND MORALS CHAPTER 46. WEAPONS

HOI, I don't recall these questions or this discussion in my CHL class. Were these discussions/questions included in your class and are they asked on current tests? Boy Howdy! I'm glad I took my course when I did.

I am sorry, but I'm a little too tired today to read between the lines to understand the point being made. Will you please be more direct so that I can accurately respond?

Hoi Polloi wrote:To elaborate on what the above two posters said, carrying a firearm when functioning as a watchman is particularly problematic because watchmen fall under the Occupations Code for law enforcement and security. Any person under this code must be properly licensed in order to carry a firearm during the course of their duties. You don't even have to be paid to fall under this restriction; any organized group, like a church security detail comprised solely of volunteers, is under the same guidelines. The code says that the title assigned to you doesn't matter, either. It is just based on job purpose and description.

I believe you could get a personal protection authorization under Chapter 1702, Occupations Code, and if you are in a uniform, you could OC, or if you are in plain clothes, you could CC.

Here are links to a couple helpful areas of the law:
OCCUPATIONS CODE TITLE 10. OCCUPATIONS RELATED TO LAW ENFORCEMENT AND SECURITY
PENAL CODE TITLE 10. OFFENSES AGAINST PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, AND MORALS CHAPTER 46. WEAPONS