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03Lightningrocks wrote:

Oldgringo wrote:

03Lightningrocks wrote:Yep... folks will do things while in the "safety" of the car that they would never do in person. Can you folks imagine walking around someone in a grocery store and having them chase you down with their cart and try to ram you??? LOL...just thinking about it cracks me up!!!

Hmmm....this might work for the specials. You know, 'while quantities last'...

LOL... about 30 years ago my x-wife almost got beat up fighting over a cabbage patch doll at Toys-R-Us!

03Lightningrocks wrote:Yep... folks will do things while in the "safety" of the car that they would never do in person. Can you folks imagine walking around someone in a grocery store and having them chase you down with their cart and try to ram you??? LOL...just thinking about it cracks me up!!!

Kabong30 wrote:I realize this thread is a little dated, but I registered with the site so I could respond to this. My father and I experienced an extremely similar (and different) situation when I was 17 (and I feel really old now realizing that was almost 20 years ago ) At any rate, this occurred just outside of Tucson, AZ (Saguaro Nat'l Monument for those who know the area) we were driving along a very twisty road that was filled with no passing zones and were being followed by a truck who very much wanted to pass. My father (who was driving) blocked this several times (mistake #1) and when we were on a straight portion of road let the driver pass. Once past us the driver immediately stopped in front of us and got out of the vehicle and started moving back to our vehicle. About the time my dad was going to start backing up another truck pulled up and boxed us in (it is important to note at this point that my father was unable to flee the vehicle because he was recovering from a broken leg). At that point my father reached into the center console and pulled out his pistol, now he did not point the weapon at the advancing driver (who was screaming about my dad being crazy) but showed it too him (arguably mistake #2). The driver looked like he wanted to evacuate his bowels but held his composure long enough to run back to his truck and drive away. We proceeded into town and I saw the guy pull into a gas station. After we finished out business we headed back out of town the same way we had come and I saw the driver from earlier accompanied by a Sheriff's deputy and jumping up and down and pointing at us. My dad immediately pulled over, and we were politely (and at gunpoint) asked to exit the vehicle. No one was arrested, but my father was cited, relieved of his weapon and we were released.

Fast forward to the court date. The driver asserts that my dad pointed the gun at him. The guy who boxed us in was the driver's buddy and they have cooked up and discussed their story so it matches and doesn't include any of the attempted passing. My dad winds up with 6 months probation for displaying the weapon (which he did get back). Why? Because he kept the guy from passing which initiated the contact. That said the judge had very stern words for all parties involved (except for me) and she could tell pretty easily that these two guys had cooked up a story together. I did testify to what happened, and told the story pretty much as I told it here (IE the truth).

There's probably a lot to analyze here (I go over it in my head quite a bit and come to different conclusions a lot) and laws have changed since that time. But I thought it would be good to share. I don't really think that my dad made a mistake pulling his firearm, but he definitely screwed up by not just letting the guy past initially. Either way, I hope it helps to see a little bit different conclusion than (the guy drove off and I never saw him again).

Purplehood wrote:

schufflerbot wrote: Now, where i draw a blank is this: what happens when someone is attacking you with their vehicle? it is most certainly considered a deadly weapon, i wonder how the courts would view this situation had you fired on him and injured/killed the driver.

if anyone has a precedent they can reference, im all ears.

You don't have a choice in that situation. You either evade or shoot the driver (preferably in that order). The hard part is convincing a Grand Jury (or further up the legal food-chain) that you were truly in fear for your life.