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carlson1 wrote:The second Trooper has now been suspended according to Fox News in Dallas.

gemini wrote:

Oldgringo wrote:Good grief! Unbelievable, just unbelievable that this subject has lasted this long.

I think it's lasted this long because it was a totally unnecessary, vile act perpetrated on two
women by folks that are supposed to be trusted. I also find it interesting how the members here
fall on one side of the line or the other. Food for thought. I found the voice track on the recording
fairly compelling. When at the scene, the woman stated that they did stick fingers in her orifices.
Not stated months later, but immediately after the fact. Was it a full on cavity
search? No. Was it a roadside sexual assault? I think so, and I think it was totally unjustified on
several levels. But, others have pointed out that since the ladies didn't "jump" or "wince" or were asked
to grasp their ankles etc ...then it was not a cavity search. I hope this thread stays at the top, because
I'm interested in knowing how, if anything, the DPS is going to handle this situation.

gigag04 wrote:

The Annoyed Man wrote:

gigag04 wrote:TAM - which LEOs in the thread are defending the practice?

mikedude.

I see it now, I skipped to end. Just got back from 21 hr 3day round trip to Tuscaloosa. Brain. Fried.

mamabearCali wrote:

VMI77 wrote:

PUCKER wrote:To me, it appears that this TX DPS "occifer" (purposely typed this way) is setting herself up in a very bad way...if this not a case of sexual assault/aggravated sexual assault, I do not know what is.

Sec. 9.32. DEADLY FORCE IN DEFENSE OF PERSON. (a) A person is justified in using deadly force against another:
(B) to prevent the other's imminent commission of aggravated kidnapping, murder, sexual assault, aggravated sexual assault, robbery, or aggravated robbery.

To me it seems like the officers involved are not doing something out of the ordinary but following established policy. The female officer obviously believes she is acting in accordance with policy because she deliberately conducts the search on camera. I don't know what the policy is or what their orders are, so it's difficult to know for sure whether the officers even used bad personal judgement. If these officers were following policy, it is the policy makers who need to be held to account, not the officers. Whether in the military or law enforcement, I'm sick and tired of the people in the front-line being held accountable for actions they'd never have taken without the consent, orders, or approval from those in charge. Punishment needs to flow upwards when those at the bottom are following policies and orders from those above them. The most severe punishment should be for those who gave the orders or created the policy --and many times those implementing these policies should get a pass.

That is gets a big maybe. Look, I know better than to put my hands in another citizens orfices. If I did so I would be charged. The officer doing this is counting on getting a pass because "it's procedure".....know what, you are a human being too. If I am accountable to know when something is over the line so is she. Maybe another person said it was ok to do, but she did it. Sorry no pass here on this one. Additionally she is accoutable because she put these women in danger of infection and STD's by not changing gloves and following hygienic procedures. UNACCEPTABLE!

rp_photo wrote:Texas really needs to get with the times and liberalize their marijuana laws.

Marijuana laws ruin more lives that marijuana itself, and this is an excellent example.