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kw5kw wrote: Never anticipate what you’re going to dream about and what you will do in your dream!
Russ

It’s fortunate for your wife you didn’t dream you were fighting off a mad dog and had it by the throat. Otherwise she couldn’t have spoke out waking you up

It seems you may have/had RBD (REM Behavior Disorder). Researchers claim that during REM sleep the brain transmits the same signals to our limbs as it does when we are awake. Most people are paralyzed during REM sleep and are unable to act out their dreams, as is my situation. I hope you no longer act out your dreams and you can rest easy, as I never have.

PS Happy to hear you newlyweds are still together

txinvestigator wrote:Its your life.

There are many reasons one might find their had around a handgun while asleep during the night, and more reasons where one would exert the less than 15 pounds required to fire the weapon.

Sorry I can’t think of one reason why anyone would put their hand on a gun while asleep. Anyone who would do that could just as easily strangle their wife with their bare hands or smother her with a pillow. Anyone who does stupid stuff while claiming they are asleep should make arrangements to be locked up each night.

As a cop, I had a NG while AWAKE, think you can't do it while asleep?

Thank you for proving my point that an ND is more likely when awake than asleep. I’ve been sleeping with a loaded gun since age 12 and never fired one while asleep.

Regarding the accessing the weapon while not fully awake; I know of several instances where a person grabbed a readily accessible firearm before getting fully awake, just woken up from heavy sleep, and shot someone they should not have.

As the son of a Dallas Police Officer I was never been permitted to set on a criminal jury. However, I doubt if I would have ever bought the ol’ I shot my spouse thinking they were a bugler excuse.

Are you really telling me you base your premise on the fact that it has never been a problem? By that reasoning, if you have yet to need to shoot someone with a gun hidden under your pillow, then why have a gun under your pillow? You have never needed it.

I’ve never needed to shot someone while awake but I still have a CHL and carry a gun. The majority of LEOs have never shot anyone either but they carry guns also. I don’t understand the above statement.

I realize it is difficult to look at your habits and beliefs and admit something you have been doing and believed strongly in might need to change, but this issue could be a deadly one for you or you spouse.

As our track record asleep appears to be better than others awake, so I see no reason to change. Should you find a criminal standing beside your bed one night, while you lay flat of you back, you might wish for a pillow pistol. Can we agree that if either of us ends up dead from our gun under the pillow decisions, the other can whisper over the casket “I told you so�.

txinvestigator wrote: 1. It is too easy to acces the weapon before you are fully awake.

Immediate and easy access is the reason the pistols are under our pillows. I’m not sure what is meant by fully awake. While I suppose I dream, I’m told everyone does. I never remember them, as I’m either awake or asleep. While my wife wakes up slowly (remembers dreams) I have trusted her not to shoot me for several decades, so I see no reason to change.

txinvestigator wrote: 2. It is VERY possible to discharge the weapon while asleep.
Both of these things have happened before, and not just once.

I convinced its a thousand times easier for a person to accidentally discharge a weapon with a long trigger pull while awake as opposed to asleep. That being the case the most likely chance of discharging a pillow gun is from dropping on the floor while making the bed. This is not a consideration with a properly inspected and working P-3AT, with its hammer block.

I have a relative that feel perfectly safe hunting but question my safety carrying a handgun because it’s too dangerous. We have agreed that if either of us accidentally shoots ourselves the other can whisper over the casket “I told you so�. This seems to make family get togethers more tolerably.

txinvestigator wrote:

Wilson wrote:We aren’t paranoid but 12 gauge pump & PLR-16 under the bed, Glocks in the nightstands and P-3ATs under our pillows.

No disrespect meant, but having a handgun under you pillow is a REALLY bad idea.

None taken. I’m sure you have reasons why it might be a bad idea for you but I can’t think of one reason why it’s not a good idea for my wife and myself.

We aren’t paranoid but 12 gauge pump & PLR-16 under the bed, Glocks in the nightstands and P-3ATs under our pillows.