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Keith B wrote:

03Lightningrocks wrote:My point is, just as some of us feel it prudent to protect ourselves from liability, the City of Austin is simply doing the same thing.

I personally feel both are wrong...maybe it is just me.

I think we are really saying the same thing. The City/ATF is forcing the hand of the sellers to require a procedure that is not how the law states the sale has to be made. Now, as a private individual selling a gun, I should be able to choose how, what, if I get information form a buyer, and what that information is. I should NOT be forced into it by the city or ATF coercing me. My only obligation is follow the law to feel that the sale is to a person is legal. How/if I choose to document it as a seller is MY decision, not theirs.

Keith B wrote:

03Lightningrocks wrote: The law doesn't say you must write down my name and DL. Welcome to the business of infringing on our constitutional rights. The problem we have is explained in actions such as this. You have a justification for violating the RKBA just as the Austin PD.

No, it doesn't, but I do the same thing. It is the choice of the person selling to ensure that they are comfortable with the transaction. I have asked for CHL before. I choose who I sell to, and if they don't want to show a drivers license or CHL, then that is their choice also and they can move on to buy from someone else.

Edit to add: And it is not the same as filling out a government form that is filed away. Also, I will bet the FFL will want a transfer fee.

FlynJay wrote:

C-dub wrote:Were the Saxet and Texas Gun shows both held and the same HEB location? If they were then Austin's analogy works. However, if not then I would amend his analogy to be a different hotel entirely where the illegal or questionable activities took place.

For my clarification, is it illegal for me, a private citizen, to sell to a felon or is is it just illegal for the felon to purchase or possess a gun? Never mind all the caveats of which state I'm in or what kind of felony it was and all that. I just mean in general. I wonder since I don't have access to or the ability to do an NICS or background check on someone or apparently the requirement. I can understand that I might be in trouble if I knowingly do this, but if I don't know the person is a felon and I'm not required to check will I still be in trouble?

It is illegal for you to knowingly sell to a felon. Before I sell to anyone, I ask to see a Texas driver's license, and I ask if they are legally able to purchase a firearm in Texas. If they have a problem with me taking down their name and TX DL # then no deal.

O6nop wrote:

03Lightningrocks wrote:I guess you would just have to visit here to understand. I grew up here and this area has been conservative as long as I can remember. The dynamics of what it takes to make a libtard a libtard, just don't exist here. Even when our spoiled children go off to college and become temporary libtards, they change their minds about equal distribution of wealth, just a few years after they get their first real job...LOL.

I lived and worked there and the Dallas area for a decade in the 80's. I don't even recognize it anymore, when I visit or pass through. From Richardson to McKinney is practically a single metropex now, quickly being taken over by 'progress'. I hope you are right and it stays as conservative as you claim. A couple gun ranges up there have closed, have they not? What's next?
I'm just hoping that people will heed the words in your sig and "get involved".

SmoothFox wrote:

03Lightningrocks wrote:Some of you are expressing surprise at Austin making a move like this. From what I have been told, Austin is the most libtard city in our state. I have been there a few times and I observed a heavy concentration of the libtard species. There has been a very heavy influx of kalifornians into Austin over the past few years. They have infiltrated and brought the kalifornia style of politics to the city. This kind of thing does not surprise me in the least. I fully expect Austin to institute a no guns allowed in the city limits law in the foreseeable future.

Try the whole state of Texas. You currently reside in the NEW Cali. You just can't see the forest for the trees. Texas is turning a little more blue and a lot less red as time marches on. Granted in the last election Texas was red overall, the big urban cities are getting bluer. Out in the sticks its red, but as the cities grow and old timers in the woods die off, Texas will be blue.



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