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grim-bob wrote: I can say that I worry about the day that they escalate a situation with an innocent CHL holder who isn't interested in being targeted. The way they confront some people suspected of shoplifting outside of stores would have some believing they were being attacked which could end badly.

Wow.... Yeah .... I would react pretty violently if someone came up from behind and grabbed me. I would never think they were trying to detain me for shop lifting and I would react so fast, they would have very little time to say so. I am not sure I would hear them anyway. Once I fly into "that" mode....I would be so scared for my life... I am certain it would get real bad real fast! Even without a CHL... I would turn and strike hard. I might take a butt whipping but the person grabbing me would be wondering who really won the fight.

I walked up on an incident at a Walmart in Plano one early morning around 1am or so. Several Walmart employees were standing outside having a shouting match with a pretty rough looking couple. From the exchange I overheard, the battle was over shop lifting. The couple was in their car right in front of the store, motor running. The female got into the car as the employees pursued her out of the store. The guy driving threw something at the employees and sped off. Thank goodness they didn't run over me. I had walked in front of the car just a minute before they drove off.

I found out which employee was the "general" and let him know how stupid it was for he and the others to be escalating a situation to dangerous over a pair of blue jeans.

Now I know why they were acting so ignorant. That store policy is just crazy stupid!