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So... most here seem to agree that some of the issues involved with the O.P.'s original post were out of line. My problem is this. I am real darned hesitant to get involved in a verbal confrontation with an officer who has me pulled over on the side of the road. I do have a limit on how much abuse I will take but an officer giving me the thirty question interrigation is not enough for me to start a debate on who has the toughest daddy.

While having my rights trampled is not something I will let them get away with, stopping them in the process is a whole different matter. What am i going to do? Tell the guy to kiss off and end up going to jail over something insignificant like not wanting to allow them to check the serial number on a gun I know is legal??? I dunno... it is a hard situation at best and it seems to me if I start protesting to much, I might cause them to think I am up to no good.

gigag04 wrote:Wow.

If so many, including mods, are glancing over the actual text of my posts, and (over)reacting as such, I see no need to post further to explain an overly simple, and often quoted adage. Carlson, I appreciate what you do, but please did a bit deeper before calling my intentions into question.

To all the rational readers, I also heard it attributed to Col Cooper, years ago, but internet lore has blurred the origin.

And yes, actually not everyone that works in the hood in our county survives, including friends:

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I will apologize for any inference my post made. I was not aware of the origin of the quote you made and definitely took the comment to heart. I was actually surprised by the comment because it did not fit with your usual posting. That was why I mentioned that maybe you were joking.

rentz wrote:Funny dps stopped me late one night after a game for 75 in a 70, seemed really random because I wasn't the fastest one on the road.

he comes to the window hand him both id's and he glanced at the chl but asked no questions and handed it back to me. Asked a whole lot of questions about where I'd been what was the score etc then said he was giving me a warning and he'd be right back.

My guess is dps is stepping up random stops for DUI and the like when they have justifiable cause even if its 5 over

as far as run one the gun I doubt he had any right to do such, I've also been advised by officers I know to always say no to a search because if they are asking they don't have probable cause because if they did they would just do it

Maybe they realize a college game is happening and they are watching for drunks traveling between the two game states. Like Texas/OU weekend. You would be nuts to drive down 35 between Dallas and OK on that night after embiding in alchohol. I bet holidays get extra attention as well.

Do you folks think there may be some profiling of sorts going on? I have always thought it was happening. When younger... before gray thinning hair...LOL, I would get some of the same "extra" attention I am reading about here. Now, I can hardly get them to pull me over. When they do, they act so friendly it makes me want to buy them dinner. I have gotten away with all kinds of crazy stuff that many here get in trouble over.

A couple years ago, my SIL was driving me to my doctor for a follow up after surgery. I was hurting and on a whole lot of meds. I told my SIL to cut through a parking lot because he missed a turn. he told me a cop was watching and I demanded he do it anyway. Humoring me, he did it and we were promptly pulled over. Being in the wrong state of mind I started mouthing off at the cop from the passenger seat. he didn't let me bug him and acted like I said nothing. He asked my SIL to step to the back of the truck. This past weekend we were laughing about it and my SIL tells me the cop said he was sorry for making him get out but thought it was a better option than hauling a guy with a neck brace and sticshes to jail. My SIL tells me he told the cop it was OK if he wanted to shoot me...LOL.

Anyway... even that time... no ticket.... just a verbal warning. I dunno... i am sure there are cops out there with a bad attitude but my experiences have always been polite or at least professional. Even when they gave me a ticket.

Anyone ever say thank you to a cop after he gave you a ticket and then thought to yourself, "why did I say thank you? he just handed me a ticket?"

tornado wrote:Not to hijack the thread, but to get it back to a discussion of a previously mentioned odd stop...

VMI77 wrote:he pulled me over because he thought I had a GPS attached to my windshield

Whoa, wait. Where in Texas is that illegal?

OK, now I've looked around and found the state law, and it says:

TRANSPORTATION CODE / TITLE 7. VEHICLES AND TRAFFIC / SUBTITLE C. RULES OF THE ROAD / CHAPTER 547. VEHICLE EQUIPMENT / SUBCHAPTER A. GENERAL PROVISIONS wrote:Sec. 547.613. RESTRICTIONS ON WINDOWS. (a) Except as provided by Subsection (b), a person commits an offense that is a misdemeanor:
(1) if the person operates a motor vehicle that has an object or material that is placed on or attached to the windshield or side or rear window and that obstructs or reduces the operator's clear view

I thought general consensus was that windshield mounts that didn't block your view were legal in Texas. I've used them low, keeping the GPS (or more recently, the phone) near the dashboard.

So I suppose the LEO thought VMI77 had a GPS attached to the windshield that was obstructing or reducing the driver's clear view.

I've moved away from windshield mounts because they keep falling off in the summer heat. My current mount is a binder clip and two rubber bands. (I skipped step 2.) And I got my wife one that mounts low on the dashboard (because her prindle stick is too close to the vent).

ETA: Why isn't this in "LEO Contacts & Bloopers"?

I was not aware of the rule concerning GPS devices attached to a windshield. My guys use them and I am not sure where they stick them but they come with a sticky cup made for windshield attachment.

A-R wrote:"have a plan to kill everyone you meet" is a pithy quote, I seriously doubt he meant it as a statement of intent to kill

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I would like to believe that over taking the post literally. Thanks for the info.

I feel I have been lucky. Based on some of the threads I have read on this forum. It would make me extremely uncomfortable having my weapon confiscated on the side of the road and ran for serial number checks. That sounds out of line. But, like the op, I am not thinking I would choose that moment to have as sword fight with words. I was told years ago that it was not a good idea to argue with a cop on the side of the road. If they have behaved improperly, it is far better to report them later.

carlson1 wrote:I disagree. There is something WRONG with planning on killing someone.

Your plan should be to stop the threat.

I have to agree. I will have to assume the comment was made as a show of bravado, otherwise, I question your sanity. Who would seriously have a plan to kill everyone they meet, besides Richard Ramirez , the BTK guy or maybe good ole Charlie Manson?

The poster has been a long time participant here... Surely it was a joke or something???