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Oldgringo wrote:

03Lightningrocks wrote:Oh my!! We have officially reached a new low in really bad humor.

Rather than a "low" in humor, try thinking of a "high" in satire, eh?

K.Mooneyham wrote:

MechAg94 wrote:

03Lightningrocks wrote:While I feel it was a mistake to shoot the vandal after the fact. I don't understand how getting shot is a defense to prosecution for committing a felony. Unless there is no evidence the guy slashed the tires, therein lies the injustice of this story. IMHO, if he slashed the tires, there should be charges brought against him.

That is pretty much what got me ticked off with this story. I don't want gun owners chasing people down and shooting them, but he should be prosecuted or somehow made to pay back the damages and lost income.

If he had shot the guy right at the truck, there would be room to call it a good shoot, but that isn't what happened. I don't know who the trucker is, but it is a shame he will likely see jail time while the POS vandal gets off free. I can only hope getting shot has taught him something.

Oldgringo wrote:

03Lightningrocks wrote:

Oldgringo wrote:

03Lightningrocks wrote:While I feel it was a mistake to shoot the vandal after the fact. I don't understand how getting shot is a defense to prosecution for committing a felony. Unless there is no evidence the guy slashed the tires, therein lies the injustice of this story. IMHO, if he slashed the tires, there should be charges brought against him.

I think anybody committing such acts of vandalism should expect to get shot. What's the problem?

So you're OK if we all dispense our own idea of justice any time we decide it is needed? I mean... What the heck. I am good with that. Guy at grocery store gets rude with me, wham, I crack him in the head. Neighbors dog craps on my yard, I'll just walk over and blast his dog. Teen down the street toilet papers my house, I kill his whole family.

Yep.. I see the perfect utopian society forming right before my eyes.

No, no, no! You don't shoot the dog, you shoot its owner. Similarly, you don't kill the teen's whole family, you kill the parents. You have to get to the root of the problem to solve the problem, Sheez!

Oldgringo wrote:

03Lightningrocks wrote:While I feel it was a mistake to shoot the vandal after the fact. I don't understand how getting shot is a defense to prosecution for committing a felony. Unless there is no evidence the guy slashed the tires, therein lies the injustice of this story. IMHO, if he slashed the tires, there should be charges brought against him.

I think anybody committing such acts of vandalism should expect to get shot. What's the problem?

TomsTXCHL wrote:

Some people seem to have this misguided idea that someone's life is worth something simply because they are alive... I understand the legal system does not necessarily agree with my sentiment.

Nor do the vast majority of civilized human beings. Or maybe I should say, nor does any civilized human being.

I'm not sure where such a profoundly misguided attitude may have come from, though I suspect that movies, TV, and shoot-em-up video games of the last 20 years may be a factor. Or at least, they can't have helped by trivializing the precious nature of life.

MechAg94 wrote:

cb1000rider wrote:What difference does the value of the tires make? Although I recognize your point that tires are expensive and commercial tires (or RV tires) are REALLY expensive, is there a monetary level where shooting is/isn't justified?

Some people seem to have this misguided idea that someone's life is worth something simply because they are alive. IMO, it isn't. It is worth as much as that person makes it. IMO, the vandal, by slashing tires, decided his life is worth nothing. If the guy had stepped out and shot him dead, I would say Good for the driver. We are lucky that we still live in a prosperous nation where set backs like this don't usually destroy our livelihoods or lives. We can survive it and continue to prosper. What I don't like is people saying "well it was no big deal" and not wanting to prosecute the vandal to the fullest. IMO, a victim should be allowed a fairly wide lattitude in dealing with crimes against himself or his property (at the time of the crime).

I understand the legal system does not necessarily agree with my sentiment. Certainly, the idiot politicians in big city DA offices don't. I try to make sure my behavior accounts for that.

texanjoker wrote:

03Lightningrocks wrote:

Purplehood wrote:I obviously don't get the gist of the law or the general feeling among many of this topics posters that shooting someone over property is okay (I am not disputing the legality of it) because it can be "dangerous" or whatever.
The only reason that I am going to shoot somebody is that they are presenting a deadly-threat to my loved-ones or myself. I doubt that I would even shoot someone for trespass unless that trespass was a component of their using force to enter my house or car, as at that point I would consider them a threat.
I am just not happy with the idea that it is "okay" to shoot someone simply because it is legal but does not present a threat to my well-being.

VERY WELL SAID!!!

Agreed. I never understood why my chl instructor preached non stop that you can shoot people for petty crimes. He should have taught people to use some common sense after informing them of the law. Many had no clue about the world and their version is you can pull a wyatt earp at night on pretty much anybody.

Purplehood wrote:I obviously don't get the gist of the law or the general feeling among many of this topics posters that shooting someone over property is okay (I am not disputing the legality of it) because it can be "dangerous" or whatever.
The only reason that I am going to shoot somebody is that they are presenting a deadly-threat to my loved-ones or myself. I doubt that I would even shoot someone for trespass unless that trespass was a component of their using force to enter my house or car, as at that point I would consider them a threat.
I am just not happy with the idea that it is "okay" to shoot someone simply because it is legal but does not present a threat to my well-being.