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JP171 wrote:

The Annoyed Man wrote:

VMI77 wrote:TAM, I would add to your write up that even just rogue elements in the military supporting the Constitution could do enough damage to derail a government attack on the people.

Agreed.

Being a person who is in military service albeit at a state level I would refuse that order in a heartbeat, having served for 14 years honorably in the US Army I would still refuse that order. Many of the friends that I made in the Army would do the same, while there may be some who would obey this order the majority would not and would interfere at the least or even stronger stop those who would be jack booted thugs. Our gubbermint isn't quite that foolish yet.

The Annoyed Man wrote:

The Annoyed Man wrote:

cb1000rider wrote:
..."Abraham Snip".....

I'm suggesting that we come up with something else other than blaming the liberals...

..."Abraham Snip"....

I want to carefully distinguish between "classical liberalism", which is more like modern libertarianism, and "modern liberalism", which is more like statist fascism. Whenever I say "liberal" below, I am referring to the latter:

It is what liberals have done to the culture over the past 100 years that produces these incidents. For the most part, those metropolises with liberal governments ALSO happen to be the cities with the nation's highest murder rates by firearm. THIS IS NOT A COINCIDENCE. This is a direct consequence of liberal policies, liberal thinking, and liberal government. Don't believe me? I submit Detroit, Chicago, and DC. Case closed. When those same liberals get hoist by their own petard, they move out of the cities and out to places like Colorado and Vermont (and Texas), where they pollute the local politics with their same sociopolitical poison which resulted in the degradation of the cities which they left. Colorado wasn't always full of hippies. It used to be a consistently right of center state, with a strong tradition of independent thought and a profound respect for the 2nd Amendment. Liberals trashed New York and other places, and then moved to Colorado to escape the consequences of their own policies. The problem is, they brought their policies with them because, at its heart, modern liberalism is an infantile state which, when dragged into physical adulthood can easily be characterized as a psychological deficiency. They are childish thinkers whose thought processes reside in the emotional, not in the logical.

They can't be convinced until their own fecklessness and failures of logic cost them catastrophically in a personal way; hence the bromide that a conservative is a liberal who has been mugged. They hate guns, until someone armed with guns—in defiance of all laws and morality—invades their homes, pistol whips them, and rapes their wives and daughters. Only THEN, when none of their fellow travelers are looking, do they sneak down to the gun store and buy a .38 or a Glock 19. Then later, after they can no longer reconcile their thinking with their actions, and they come to the conclusion that they have to abandon one or the other in order to shed the cognitive dissonance, they choose to turn in their guns at a local gun buy-back, nominally in the name of assuaging their consciences, but in reality so that they don't have to give up their infantile state and become fully self-realized adults.............because being an adult is too damned hard for them, and being assimilated into the socialist borg is just easier than resisting.

If you cannot win an argument with a liberal based exclusively on facts, and minus the emotional content, then they cannot ever be converted to adulthood no matter what you say, and just like with any badly-behaved child, I no longer care if their feelings are hurt, so long as their feelings don't do any more damage to my civil liberties.

Period.

A-R wrote:http://m.csmonitor.com/USA/2013/1214/Co ... the-answer

An armed deputy sheriff at Arapahoe High School in Colorado likely prevented a school shooting there from being worse, officials say, ending the episode in less than two minutes.

A-R wrote:

The Annoyed Man wrote:http://weaselzippers.us/2013/12/14/colo ... socialist/

Quoting the shooter
AND... his FaceBook postings:

“you republicans are so cute” ........ “The Republican Party: Health Care: Let ‘em Die, Climate Change: Let ‘em Die, Gun Violence: Let ‘em Die, Women’s Rights: Let ‘em Die, More War: Let ‘em Die. Is this really the side you want to be on?”

The bit about gun violence is ironic, considering the circumstances around his own death.

Ok, I've changed my mind.

I now support strict gun control.



NO LIBERAL COMMIE SOCIALIST WINDBAG SHALL EVER BE ALLOWED WITHIN 1 MILE OF A GUN, AMMUNITION, "THAT THING THAT GOES UP", OR ANY SANE PERSON WHO OWNS GUNS, LIKES GUNS, DOESN'T "DISLIKE" GUNS, OR JUST GENERALLY WANTS TO AVOID IDIOTS.

And so declared by the powers invested ... so forth and so on ...

jmra wrote:

JALLEN wrote:I read in another forum that the kid was an enthusiastic socialist. The kid that shoot the Congresswoman was a leftist, the kid that shoot up the movie theater was, too. The Connecticut guy was too messed up to count.

The obvious solution is to ban socialists.

Liberalism is a mental disorder, after all.

doesn't seem to be a cure either.

A-R wrote:This incident does not qualify as a "mass shooting" (4+ killed at random by lone shooter with no particular motive)

It's a "school shooting" only in the most basic sense that it happened at a school.

It did provoke a massive, well-executed, professional response from school & first responders.

But at the end of the day, this seems little more than a premeditated attempted murder of a particular target with a few innocent casualties and a murderer who offed himself. Yes, the wannabe murderer was an adolescent, but so are many of the 500 murderers every year in Chicago. What's the difference between this incident and a drive by in front of a Chicago school or playground. The 24-hour news networks don't drop everything and cover Chicago drive bys as Breaking News.

This incident is a big deal in the media today because its physical proximity to other Colorado shootings and calendar proximity to Newtown shooting give media another opportunity to push for gun control.

But - sickeningly - the lack of a high body count means covrage of this incident will quickly fade. We'll get a weekend of libtard gun control shaming (that we were going to get for Newtown anniversary anyway), then this will be forgotten.

powerboatr wrote: that area of colorado is knee deep in the non spankers, no GOD, pot smokers, please give me free stuff.
drives me crazy if i have to visit my sister there.

The footage of every LEO in what looked like a 200 mile radius having kids walk out with their arms in the air
then i thought, if this was planned event the criminals could have cleaned out every bank around.
top off the nut in wichita with a car bomb......

Running Arrow Bill wrote:A lot of school districts are idiots! Blame cities, school administration, school boards, etc. 20-20 hindsight says once parents were "criminals" for saying "NO" to their rug rats and not allowed to spank, it all started going downhill.

We need to remove the idiot "gun free zone" and start training & arming teachers and selected key personnel along with higher security (doors, video cameras, access by others only with approved ID, etc.

Several schools have already adopted these precautions, including a number in Texas. You will never identify and prevent psychos (adults and children) from shooting others for recreation. But, you can decrease the probability that a bad guy/girl can access certain places; and, if found, bring down the tough arm of the Law and put them in a cage (or something more permanent). When I was in public school in the 40s and 50s, there was NEVER an act of violence! Kids respected others and if not, just got into a minor fight... and, Principals and Parents never "spared the rod"...

cb1000rider wrote:

03Lightningrocks wrote: It IS the liberals that refuse to allow us to protect our children.

I think I get it - you want the right to carry at school because giving you that right would prevent incidents like this?
Sorry, I realize now that liberal laws are the root cause of shootings like this.

cb1000rider wrote: I'm suggesting that we come up with something else other than blaming the liberals...