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Oldgringo wrote:

03Lightningrocks wrote:

Oldgringo wrote:

03Lightningrocks wrote:And heck yeah this subject makes me mad. I have loved ones living out there that could be the victim of this kind of crazed cowardly lunatic. We can never condone this type of situation or we WILL lose our right to own weapons.


As for the chances a jury will somehow say it is OK to kill a human for texting in a theater, I think are very slim. My bet is on a plea bargain. They have this nut dead to rights. I would be seriously concerned by the precedent set if this lunatic walks without serving some serious time.

Is your angst driven by the shooters actions or his age?

His actions. That was one dumb question my friend. It makes me question your motivations. Is your angst for the crazy nut because of his age?

Personally, if I were related to the victim, I would do everything I could to get that crazed killer out of jail.

Just kiddin'....

Cedar Park Dad wrote:

Oldgringo wrote:

03Lightningrocks wrote:And heck yeah this subject makes me mad. I have loved ones living out there that could be the victim of this kind of crazed cowardly lunatic. We can never condone this type of situation or we WILL lose our right to own weapons.


As for the chances a jury will somehow say it is OK to kill a human for texting in a theater, I think are very slim. My bet is on a plea bargain. They have this nut dead to rights. I would be seriously concerned by the precedent set if this lunatic walks without serving some serious time.

Is your angst driven by the shooters actions or his age?

I think its driven by someone shooting a dad over a text to his daughter's babysitter during the previews.

Oldgringo wrote:

03Lightningrocks wrote:And heck yeah this subject makes me mad. I have loved ones living out there that could be the victim of this kind of crazed cowardly lunatic. We can never condone this type of situation or we WILL lose our right to own weapons.


As for the chances a jury will somehow say it is OK to kill a human for texting in a theater, I think are very slim. My bet is on a plea bargain. They have this nut dead to rights. I would be seriously concerned by the precedent set if this lunatic walks without serving some serious time.

Is your angst driven by the shooters actions or his age?

Abraham wrote:03Lightningrocks,

You're still upset I see.

Once again, deep, cleansing breaths until all that rage fades away...

Or, if that doesn't work, exercise until fatigued, you'll definitely feel better.

Abraham wrote:03Lightningrocks,

Take a few deep, cleansing breaths...

Better?

I thought so.

(glad you won't be on the jury)

Abraham wrote:Previously, in this thread I asked: "Does everyone KNOW the geezer was completely, positively in the wrong"

What part of this question defends a crazed shooter?

None of us was there - so everything offered is speculation, including my own...

Of course, I wouldn't defend the actions of a crazed shooter.

I would say if YOU weren't there all you have is an opinion.

Pawpaw wrote:

03Lightningrocks wrote:If that video shows that crazy old man initiated contact by standing up and leaning over the victim, it is not going to work out well for the crazy old BG. Maybe the story was wrong at first but how did popcorn become a cell phone? Sounds like crazy old BG is trying to make it sound as though he was in danger. I would love to read the crazy old guy is getting "special" treatment by his fellow inmates.

I think you've got your wires crossed. It was the dead guy that stood up and leaned over the shooter.

Abraham wrote:Does everyone KNOW the geezer was completely, positively in the wrong or could he sincerely have felt threatened by the younger guy - given the disparity of force i.e., the younger guy could potentially and easily beat up the old guy?

Sure, the old guy could've kept quiet and simply tolerated the rudeness of the texting guy and perhaps all would've ended peacefully. Since he didn't tolerate the rudeness, spoke up, insults exchanged and at some point the O.G. thought, uh-oh I'm about to be pounded to a pulp and I'm too old/frail to take a beating.

Perhaps, now he feels dreadful guilt for having shot texting man and would have taken the beating were it possible to re-live the experience.

None of us were there to know how it actually led up to the shooting.

All we can do is speculate after the fact.

CHLLady wrote:

jmra wrote:

Oldgringo wrote:Old people shouldn't be allowed to go to movie theatres; especially, crazy old guys. If they're not 'necking', they're shooting up the place.

I think my $20 popcorn and drink would go flying through the air if I saw some crazy old guys necking in the theater.

You guys!

WildBill wrote:I wonder why they are denying bail.
Yes, he is charged with murder, but I don't see him as a big flight risk.
I guess maybe he could hide out for 10 years or so and never have to face trial.

WildBill wrote:DADE CITY, Fla. (AP) — A bail hearing for a retired Tampa police officer who fatally shot a man inside a movie theater during an argument over texting took a dramatic turn Friday: Prosecutors played a grainy video of the shooting and a recording of the defendant's police interview.

"If I had it to do over again, it would have never happened," Curtis Reeves told detectives. "But you don't get do-overs."

Reeves, 71, is charged with second-degree murder in the Jan. 13 killing of Chad Oulson, 43. At the end of the hearing, which provided glimpses of the strengths and weaknesses of prosecutors' case, the judge ordered Reeves held without bail until his trial.

According to the police interview, Reeves said Oulson hit him in the face, possibly with a cellphone, and he shot in self-defense. Yet other witnesses, including Reeves' wife, told authorities they never saw Oulson strike Reeves.

Vivian Reeves did tell police that Oulson stood up and leaned over toward her husband just before the shooting, and the video appears to show some sort of contact between the two men.

Reeves pleaded not guilty. If convicted, he could face a mandatory minimum sentence of 25 years in prison.


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