That's the way I understood it. I could get reprimanded or fired here, but it's not illegal.sjfcontrol wrote:Teamless wrote:Well, from a legal stand point, if it says it in your handbook, it is legal and enforceable.laketex wrote:and it is in the employee handbook that no guns are allowed. Still debating this one.
Does not have to be the 30.06 wording, a simple "No guns" will suffice.
My company does not have it in the handbook but has told us that we cannot carry here either. So if I am (and I am not) I can be fired for it.
But I do keep it in the car, which they allow.
If its in the employee manual, it is "written communication", and must be the 30.06 wording in order to be legally enforceable (i.e. charged with a crime). See 30.06(c)(3)(A). Any wording is sufficient to get you fired.
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- Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:32 am
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- Tue Jun 08, 2010 7:37 am
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A. Perhaps. I'll try to be cognizant of my word choice as I go about my time here.Oldgringo wrote:Questions:
A. Wasn't there a thread once apon a time about the word "orientated" as opposed to the word "oriented"?
B. During this first week of carrying, did you see many people who needed to be shot?
B. There was nobody that directly threatened myself or my family. However, I DID only go to WalMart once.
- Tue Jun 08, 2010 7:34 am
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canvasbck wrote:Nice read, can't wait to join you! Might want to check about the work thing. If your facility has been deemed "critical infrastructure" by the feds, you can't carry there. Federal laws. I'm the security supervisor at a chemical plant and that's the reason we can not allow even CHL holders to bring firearms inside the secure area. I'm just guessing that you work in a chemical plant or refinery by your description "industrial plant". It sucks but it is verboten.laketex wrote: I need to get some sort of pocket gun for work. I work as a supervisor/maint for an industrial plant in the heat/cold, ect so I think tiny in the pocket will have to be the way to go. I really hate the tiny guns, but I hate being unarmed even more. Anyways, I'm sure I'll have more thoughts/questions, but that's it for now!
Bryan
Thanks for the info! I actually work in a metals manufacturing plant so no fed laws. However, I checked, and it is in the employee handbook that no guns are allowed. Still debating this one.
- Mon Jun 07, 2010 2:33 pm
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surprise_i'm_armed wrote:laketex:
Congrats on your eventual follow through to snare your plastic.
If your work pants have large enough pockets you could pocket carry
a number of guns. I pocket carry my PT111 Taurus double stack 9MM
in the right front pocket and have never been made. It's not a mouse gun
and it has a 10 + 1 capacity. The newer generations of PT111's are 12 + 1.
Of course the usual suspects for such a carry would be LCP, LCR, Kel-tecs,
Kahrs, 2" snubbies, and many others.
Even though many small attractive pistols are available in .380, IMHO, go with
at least a 9MM in a single stack. The ammo is easier to buy. You may
be frustrated at trying to score some .380 for your needs.
I already am! Bought my wife a bersa thunder, and we never take it to the range anymore. I'm sitting on one box of .380 and I hate to shoot it since I'm not sure when I'll ever find more! I do like a 9mm carry, but I'm also looking for a small gun, and no cash for a R9...it's always something, ya know?
SIA
- Mon Jun 07, 2010 2:27 pm
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I might be about 3:30...is it based on centerline of gun or where the slide sits? My slide is about dead nuts 3:00.Teamless wrote:Welcome Laketex
Nice to have you aboard and carrying.
Yes, your story was a bit weird, but glad you finally got your plastic.
I tried 3:00 with my IWB and with my build, it just jammed up and was very uncomfortable.
I found that about 3:30 and pulled my pants up just hair more and it was about perfect.
- Mon Jun 07, 2010 9:47 am
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My first week carrying...some thoughts
Hello ladies and gentlemen. Thanks in advance for my new firearms related home on the web. My other home has been getting pretty cluttered with an "adult adolescent" environment that I don't care for it much anymore. I have been a lurking member here for a few years here, and just checking sale ads, and learning. I'm ready to jump into the fire!
I received my plastic on May 27th. Now my background was a little weird on this, so let me sum it up. I took the class in '05 and never sent my paperwork in. I never felt the need to, and I just never did it. I retook the class in Nov of '08 a month after my daughter was born, and also due to funds being tight, never sent it in and sort of forgot about it. I found my packet while cleaning out my closet in March, and sent it in. Received my plastic on the 27th, but due to having a lot of family obligations that I didn't feel comfortable concealing at (yet), my first day to carry was May 31st, Memorial Day.
I figured what better way to celebrate my newly reinstated Constitutional right than carrying to the local Memorial Day parade, so we loaded up my daughter, and headed out. I was concealed IWB in a holster I bought from one of the Glocktalk vendors, Mliebs, but it's a nice leather IWB with a slight forward cant. I wussed out with a Hawaiian shirt, shorts, and flip flops. I suppose I probably looked like a tourist since I had my wife's camera, snapping pics of her and our daughter. I was extremely self conscious and kept checking my concealment. I was carrying around 4:00 which would outline the butt of my G26 if I bent over too far. When I left the house, I didn't think this would be that much of an issue, but I never realized how much bending over a guy that has a 20 month old child does!
We left there and went on the tried and true Wally Walk for a grocery trip and spent about an hour in that personal hell on earth. By the time I got home, I was becoming used to carrying in public, but I knew that my carrying position had to change. I've done some experimenting since, and I have pretty much settled on 3:00ish. It's still pretty comfortable for me, and I don't mind it too bad. I've been carrying everywhere except for work and sleep (haven't been to any prohibited places) and I like it. My head is always on a swivel, my awareness is up, and I definitely feel the responsibility of carrying.
I carry my G26 with night sights and factory mags in a Mliebs IWB, a Galco Matrix, or...when I went to my inlaws pool yesterday, I carried a paddle clipped to my swim trunks. Left it locked in the glovebox though!
I need to get some sort of pocket gun for work. I work as a supervisor/maint for an industrial plant in the heat/cold, ect so I think tiny in the pocket will have to be the way to go. I really hate the tiny guns, but I hate being unarmed even more. Anyways, I'm sure I'll have more thoughts/questions, but that's it for now!
Bryan
I received my plastic on May 27th. Now my background was a little weird on this, so let me sum it up. I took the class in '05 and never sent my paperwork in. I never felt the need to, and I just never did it. I retook the class in Nov of '08 a month after my daughter was born, and also due to funds being tight, never sent it in and sort of forgot about it. I found my packet while cleaning out my closet in March, and sent it in. Received my plastic on the 27th, but due to having a lot of family obligations that I didn't feel comfortable concealing at (yet), my first day to carry was May 31st, Memorial Day.
I figured what better way to celebrate my newly reinstated Constitutional right than carrying to the local Memorial Day parade, so we loaded up my daughter, and headed out. I was concealed IWB in a holster I bought from one of the Glocktalk vendors, Mliebs, but it's a nice leather IWB with a slight forward cant. I wussed out with a Hawaiian shirt, shorts, and flip flops. I suppose I probably looked like a tourist since I had my wife's camera, snapping pics of her and our daughter. I was extremely self conscious and kept checking my concealment. I was carrying around 4:00 which would outline the butt of my G26 if I bent over too far. When I left the house, I didn't think this would be that much of an issue, but I never realized how much bending over a guy that has a 20 month old child does!
We left there and went on the tried and true Wally Walk for a grocery trip and spent about an hour in that personal hell on earth. By the time I got home, I was becoming used to carrying in public, but I knew that my carrying position had to change. I've done some experimenting since, and I have pretty much settled on 3:00ish. It's still pretty comfortable for me, and I don't mind it too bad. I've been carrying everywhere except for work and sleep (haven't been to any prohibited places) and I like it. My head is always on a swivel, my awareness is up, and I definitely feel the responsibility of carrying.
I carry my G26 with night sights and factory mags in a Mliebs IWB, a Galco Matrix, or...when I went to my inlaws pool yesterday, I carried a paddle clipped to my swim trunks. Left it locked in the glovebox though!
I need to get some sort of pocket gun for work. I work as a supervisor/maint for an industrial plant in the heat/cold, ect so I think tiny in the pocket will have to be the way to go. I really hate the tiny guns, but I hate being unarmed even more. Anyways, I'm sure I'll have more thoughts/questions, but that's it for now!
Bryan