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by Excaliber
Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:22 pm
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Topic: What makes people think this is acceptable?
Replies: 29
Views: 5028

Re: What makes people think this is acceptable?

Purplehood wrote:
Excaliber wrote:
Venus Pax wrote:Within the last few weeks, we have had two separate people (separate occasions) ring our doorbell AT NIGHT wanting to sell us something. Mars opened the door and talked to the first one; I talked to the second one through the door without opening it.

I really don't like solicitors anyway. I've considered a "no soliciting" sign, as well as a door mat that says "We gave at the office, we know God, and we love our vaccuum cleaner," but I hear that just eggs them on, and I don't want to discourage my neighbor kids from selling school/church fundraiser items, nor do I want to discourage the Girl Scouts.

Do many of you here have this problem where you live? If so, what do you do about it?
My solution is a wireless intercom set.

I answer the door from either of two master stations, neither of which is in view of the door. Unless the visitor is someone I want to talk to, I make clear that we don't have any business together and they leave.

Advantages:

1. No opportunity for a push-in home invasion.
2. The visitor does not get to visually size up any occupant to determine if he/she looks like a good target risk or not
3. If it's early morning or late evening, I don't have to get dressed to answer the door
4. It's very unsettling to bad guys. They figure (correctly) that if the occupants thought things through enough to put in an intercom and use it, an intrusion attempt is likely to be met with more unwelcome surprises.
5. The intercom conversation is confirmation that someone is home, so a burglar looking for an empty house will keep on looking.
6. My most used intercom station is just outside my safe room which I could very quickly secure and then set up a welcoming party for a determined intruder if necessary.

Drawbacks:

1. You need to test it periodically to make sure it's working properly and the batteries are still good (they last about a year).

Cost: Around a hundred bucks for one outside and one inside station. More stations can be purchased at additional cost. The master station can be either a tabletop model (about the size of a clock radio w/cd player) or as a flush mount unit that requires a wall cutout.

History: My current setup has been in use for about a year and a half. It works like a charm!
Doesn't it also suggest to a potential burglar know that you are NOT home if you fail to answer?
Yes - in the same way that not going to the door in response to the doorbell when you're not home does. I see no additional drawback here.

That's where good locks, reinforced door strikes, an alarm system, and alert armed neighbors come in to the deterrent equation.
by Excaliber
Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:43 am
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: What makes people think this is acceptable?
Replies: 29
Views: 5028

Re: What makes people think this is acceptable?

Venus Pax wrote:
Excaliber wrote:My solution is a wireless intercom set.

I answer the door from either of two master stations, neither of which is in view of the door. Unless the visitor is someone I want to talk to, I make clear that we don't have any business together and they leave.
We have an intercom system, but it's old, and I'm not sure that a solicitor would know how to communicate using it. (You have to actually push a button and talk. Does yours work like this?)

Also, do you always answer the door by using the intercom, or only at night? I don't mind going straight to the door for the neighbors, but don't care to deal with strangers. Of course, I wouldn't know until I got there and looked out the window.
Mine also requires a visitor to push the button. I have a very simple sign above it telling them to do so, and I put a red reflective dot on the button. If they don't respond to my initial intercom query I tell them verbally over the intercom what to do. If they aren't able to follow those instructions, they aren't friends (none of mine are that dumb) and we don't have anything to talk about. I do not allow myself to be roped into going to the door because someone appears to have trouble figuring out how to push the button.

I use the intercom all the time. There's no magic protection from bad guys at the door during the day - it's actually when most burglars operate.

My door has a large center glass panel and is at the end of a long hall. If I'm near the hall, I take a quick peek to get an idea of who might be there. If it's a neighbor or friend, I don't bother with the intercom. If I'm not near the hall, I make my initial assessment by intercom only and confirm it with a look down the hall if needed.
by Excaliber
Wed Dec 10, 2008 8:40 pm
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: What makes people think this is acceptable?
Replies: 29
Views: 5028

Re: What makes people think this is acceptable?

Venus Pax wrote:Within the last few weeks, we have had two separate people (separate occasions) ring our doorbell AT NIGHT wanting to sell us something. Mars opened the door and talked to the first one; I talked to the second one through the door without opening it.

I really don't like solicitors anyway. I've considered a "no soliciting" sign, as well as a door mat that says "We gave at the office, we know God, and we love our vaccuum cleaner," but I hear that just eggs them on, and I don't want to discourage my neighbor kids from selling school/church fundraiser items, nor do I want to discourage the Girl Scouts.

Do many of you here have this problem where you live? If so, what do you do about it?
My solution is a wireless intercom set.

I answer the door from either of two master stations, neither of which is in view of the door. Unless the visitor is someone I want to talk to, I make clear that we don't have any business together and they leave.

Advantages:

1. No opportunity for a push-in home invasion.
2. The visitor does not get to visually size up any occupant to determine if he/she looks like a good target risk or not
3. If it's early morning or late evening, I don't have to get dressed to answer the door
4. It's very unsettling to bad guys. They figure (correctly) that if the occupants thought things through enough to put in an intercom and use it, an intrusion attempt is likely to be met with more unwelcome surprises.
5. The intercom conversation is confirmation that someone is home, so a burglar looking for an empty house will keep on looking.
6. My most used intercom station is just outside my safe room which I could very quickly secure and then set up a welcoming party for a determined intruder if necessary.

Drawbacks:

1. You need to test it periodically to make sure it's working properly and the batteries are still good (they last about a year).

Cost: Around a hundred bucks for one outside and one inside station. More stations can be purchased at additional cost. The master station can be either a tabletop model (about the size of a clock radio w/cd player) or as a flush mount unit that requires a wall cutout.

History: My current setup has been in use for about a year and a half. It works like a charm!

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